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orangecrush

(29,411 posts)
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 08:47 AM 16 hrs ago

Denmark Just Switched to Red Streetlights, Solving a Problem Every Modern City Deals With

Last edited Mon Feb 9, 2026, 10:09 AM - Edit history (1)

Denmark’s bold lighting shift is turning heads, and it might be the blueprint for the cities of tomorrow.

A quiet transformation is underway in Gladsaxe, Denmark, where urban lighting is evolving to protect local wildlife without compromising public safety. In this municipality near Copenhagen, red LED streetlights have been installed along key roadways, offering a potential model for cities worldwide grappling with the environmental impact of artificial lighting. The initiative targets light pollution and seeks to reduce disruptions to nocturnal species, particularly bats, which are sensitive to urban light.

This innovative shift is rooted in scientific research and aligns with global sustainability efforts. In doing so, it represents more than just a change in lighting color. It is a rethinking of how cities can evolve their infrastructure to meet pressing environmental goals, preserve local ecosystems, and manage the growing challenges of urban development.

Reducing Light Pollution to Protect Wildlife
In most urban areas, artificial light serves primarily to ensure safety and improve visibility for pedestrians and drivers. However, growing evidence suggests that traditional lighting systems disrupt natural ecosystems. Species such as bats, which rely on echolocation for navigation and feeding, are particularly vulnerable to artificial light. Research shows that short-wavelength lights—like those in white, blue, and green spectrums—disrupt their behavior, leading to altered migration patterns and disrupted feeding cycles.

https://indiandefencereview.com/denmark-just-switched-to-red-streetlights-solving-a-problem-every-modern-city-deals-with/

It must be heavenly to live in an ENLIGHTENED SOCIETY where PIGGIES don't stop you from having NICE THINGS.


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Denmark Just Switched to Red Streetlights, Solving a Problem Every Modern City Deals With (Original Post) orangecrush 16 hrs ago OP
In the meantime, Diamond_Dog 16 hrs ago #1
Led by these church-going weirdos and the 6 piles of shit on the SC wolfie001 14 hrs ago #31
What is that? EndlessMaze 6 hrs ago #47
What is what? wolfie001 5 hrs ago #49
Wait til Trump hears about this newdeal2 16 hrs ago #2
I hope he doesn't hear about it orangecrush 15 hrs ago #8
LOL, Good one..."Commie red lights" Escurumbele 14 hrs ago #23
When the GOP hear about this.... Old Crank 16 hrs ago #3
"LED LIGHTS?!?!?" durablend 16 hrs ago #5
VERY white. orangecrush 15 hrs ago #9
Just like they fought to keep incandescent light bulbs Seinan Sensei 11 hrs ago #37
Yes -- as the Republican Georgia state legislature did Pinback 10 hrs ago #39
One of the worst inventions EVER. Converts non-renewable fossils into greenhouse gas and noise pollution, all to ... eppur_se_muova 7 hrs ago #46
Yeah? Yeah? Well we're gonna spend $100 million to change the stationary to "Department of War" Prairie Gates 16 hrs ago #4
I was very surprised by this: markodochartaigh 16 hrs ago #6
Me too orangecrush 15 hrs ago #11
One possibility is that the lights attract insects at night Disaffected 14 hrs ago #30
Bats find bright lights very confusing. They use echolocation to "see" prey Maru Kitteh 13 hrs ago #35
Does this mean that there will be "Red Light Districts" everywhere? n/t marked50 15 hrs ago #7
Gladsaxe, indeed. Harker 15 hrs ago #10
Knew that was coming... orangecrush 15 hrs ago #12
"THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" durablend 14 hrs ago #29
I live in NYC, the only wildlife we have here are SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #13
You have wild pizza? Here, we have to buy it. JustABozoOnThisBus 8 hrs ago #45
Sounds like a great idea. StarryNite 15 hrs ago #14
For city traffic orangecrush 15 hrs ago #15
Red lights are standard for ship lights after sunset, especially haele 15 hrs ago #18
Thanks orangecrush 14 hrs ago #20
Interesting. StarryNite 15 hrs ago #19
Thanks! orangecrush 14 hrs ago #21
Whereever I can, I replace bulbs with tunable LEDs. I mainly aim for around 2700K (warm) erronis 15 hrs ago #16
We actually have such things here, with the Dark Skies Communities, niyad 15 hrs ago #17
Thanks orangecrush 14 hrs ago #22
check out their website and their work niyad 13 hrs ago #33
Will do! orangecrush 10 hrs ago #41
After 30 years in the Navy maxrandb 14 hrs ago #24
Every data center needs to convert to this. Envirogal 14 hrs ago #25
Or.....one could think Denmark has gone to battle stations. paleotn 14 hrs ago #26
Good one orangecrush 14 hrs ago #27
I was a tanker on the M1-Abrams-series tanks. Aristus 14 hrs ago #28
Ships I served on also had red interior lights Kaleva 10 hrs ago #42
Cool....lighting is getting obnoxious purr-rat beauty 13 hrs ago #32
Even something like making sure lights are facing down, not up, niyad 13 hrs ago #34
Birds and moths Cirsium 12 hrs ago #36
The problems wth artifical light Cirsium 11 hrs ago #38
Fantastic orangecrush 10 hrs ago #40
It wasn't long ago that all the streetlights in San Jose, CA, were low pressure sodium orange. hunter 10 hrs ago #43
At least the orange weren't as bad orangecrush 9 hrs ago #44
i hope it helps. i saw very few critters when i was there. black/white crows + a few english sparrows. pansypoo53219 6 hrs ago #48

wolfie001

(7,376 posts)
49. What is what?
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 08:02 PM
5 hrs ago

This preacher mother-fucker has a bunch of private jets and a private airstrip next to his mansion and he did that famous fake-laughing YT video after Biden won the 2020 election. Plus, the 6 christo-fascists on the SC are covering for the fat orange imbecile. I welcome a back and forth if you want one. 🤔

newdeal2

(5,054 posts)
2. Wait til Trump hears about this
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 08:58 AM
16 hrs ago

It will be his next top priority after the windmills and toilet flushing.

“They’re turning our beautiful white lamps into commie red lights!”

Pinback

(13,550 posts)
39. Yes -- as the Republican Georgia state legislature did
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 02:49 PM
10 hrs ago

for gasoline-powered leaf blowers. Well, they didn’t actually require gas-powered leaf blowers (yet!), but local governments are forbidden from passing legislation that would outlaw gasoline leaf blowers.

(There are also some well-meaning liberals who support gasoline-powered power tools, saying they help immigrants make a living. I’ll ignore that rabbit hole for the moment.)

Menwhile, those of us living in urban areas have to hear these horrid noise and pollution spewing instruments of torture several times a week, 52 weeks out of the year.

I also live in a location that’s besieged by streetlights as bright as spotlights, to the point that we’ve had to start putting big pieces of foamcore poster board in the windows every night just to get some sleep.

eppur_se_muova

(41,345 posts)
46. One of the worst inventions EVER. Converts non-renewable fossils into greenhouse gas and noise pollution, all to ...
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 06:04 PM
7 hrs ago

do a job that used to be done just fine with hand rakes. Wear gloves to prevent blisters and you don't need anything better.

markodochartaigh

(5,250 posts)
6. I was very surprised by this:
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 09:18 AM
16 hrs ago

Species such as bats, which rely on echolocation for navigation and feeding, are particularly vulnerable to artificial light.

Disaffected

(6,265 posts)
30. One possibility is that the lights attract insects at night
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 11:36 AM
14 hrs ago

which in turn attract bats thus disrupting their normal nocturnal behaviour.

Maru Kitteh

(31,430 posts)
35. Bats find bright lights very confusing. They use echolocation to "see" prey
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 12:28 PM
13 hrs ago

But they do see with their eyes for navigation also and they are blinded by bright light. It would be like you trying to eat something very delicate and complex off of a moving plate in the center of a bunch of semi trucks with their brights on. In very brightly lit conditions they have accidents, fly into deadly situations, tear their wings and die.

I live in the forest with many bats and I rather like them.

StarryNite

(12,032 posts)
14. Sounds like a great idea.
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 10:02 AM
15 hrs ago

I recently switched some nightlights to red. I wasn't sure how I would like it but it's really nice.

haele

(15,207 posts)
18. Red lights are standard for ship lights after sunset, especially
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 10:42 AM
15 hrs ago

In areas that open up to the deck area, unless your're on the main deck of a fishing or diving boat where spot illumination has to go about 20 yards on the water past the boat.
Even then, the deck or pilot house typically goes to red light just so the pilot can see what's going on out to the horizon at night.

While electronic spaces often dim to cobalt (blue) lights after sunset to ease the strain from the typical black screen displays of nautical radios and navigational equipment, the transition from passageways and spaces inside the "skin of the ship" to out on the decks at night is easier on the eyes and safer in red light.

erronis

(23,130 posts)
16. Whereever I can, I replace bulbs with tunable LEDs. I mainly aim for around 2700K (warm)
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 10:21 AM
15 hrs ago

I've never liked the higher shorter-wavelengths. Plus I've heard that those are much harder on the retinas.

niyad

(130,571 posts)
33. check out their website and their work
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 12:06 PM
13 hrs ago

www.darksky.org

I am so happy that a number of communities in Colorado are on the list, and that my alma mater is engaged in the research.

Envirogal

(290 posts)
25. Every data center needs to convert to this.
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 10:59 AM
14 hrs ago

Granted, I hope the data center building craze in communities is being thwarted now that people are understanding what these awful polluting, excessive gluttonous use of power and water monstrosities really do and no more are built. BUT all existing ones must be forced to retrofit to these type of lights or better yet, figure out how to power down after a certain time. Light pollution is a thing and if it’s disrupting night species and the homes near the area, then that externality needs to be fixed.

paleotn

(21,859 posts)
26. Or.....one could think Denmark has gone to battle stations.
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 11:02 AM
14 hrs ago

All hands man battle stations.

Granted, that's a Hollywood trope. We only "rigged for red" for very specific reasons. But still.

Aristus

(71,897 posts)
28. I was a tanker on the M1-Abrams-series tanks.
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 11:05 AM
14 hrs ago

The first model of M1, with the old 105mm gun, the turret interior lights were white light, but with the flip of a switch, you could change them to red light, preserving night vision for operations after dark.

When the newer M1A1 Abrams went into service, they ditched the changeable interior lights to a constant light electric-blue; don't know why. We all hated it.

niyad

(130,571 posts)
34. Even something like making sure lights are facing down, not up,
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 12:16 PM
13 hrs ago

is helpful. When the unwanted new convenience store in our neighborhood installed their service area security lights just before opening, they were face-up and blinding. After a surprised, cordial chat with the upset neighbors, they actually installed completely different, down-facing, far less blinding, lights, for which the creatures of the night, and the neighbors, were most grateful.

Cirsium

(3,683 posts)
36. Birds and moths
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 01:25 PM
12 hrs ago

Artificial lighting has disastrous effects on birds and moths.

It isn't good for humans, either, as it supresses production of melatonin, an important anti-oxidant.

Cirsium

(3,683 posts)
38. The problems wth artifical light
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 02:34 PM
11 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Feb 9, 2026, 05:06 PM - Edit history (1)

Here is an article I happened to be working on...

Light, at Night: Infrastructure, Biology, and the Quiet Costs

Artificial light is one of the most taken-for-granted features of modern life. Streets are lit, parking lots glow, buildings shine through the night, and very few of us stop to ask what that light is doing beyond helping people see where they’re going. Yet over the last several decades, it has become increasingly clear that artificial light at night is not a neutral convenience. It is a powerful biological signal, and like all such signals, it carries consequences.

A small but telling example comes from Gladsaxe, a municipality near Copenhagen, where planners have begun installing red-dominant LED streetlights along specific roadways. The project has attracted attention because it departs from the prevailing assumption that brighter, whiter light is always better. The stated motivation is modest and practical: to reduce the impact of street lighting on local bat populations while maintaining adequate visibility for people. What makes the project significant is not its scale, but its premise. It treats light pollution as an infrastructure problem with an infrastructure solution, rather than as an unfortunate side effect to be managed by individual awareness or goodwill.

Bats are the most visible focus of the Gladsaxe experiment, and for good reason. Many bat species are highly sensitive to artificial light, particularly short-wavelength white and blue light. Such lighting can disrupt flight paths, fragment habitat, and interfere with feeding behavior. In landscapes where darkness once provided safe corridors between roosts and feeding areas, bright lighting can act as a barrier. Red-dominant lighting, by contrast, is far less disruptive to bat behavior, not because it is “gentler” in some abstract sense, but because it interacts differently with their sensory and physiological systems.

What is often missed in public discussions is that bats are not an isolated case. They are simply one of the easiest animals to notice when lighting changes alter behavior. The same light that disorients bats also affects insects, birds, and mammals through shared biological mechanisms. Among insects, moths are especially vulnerable. Many species are strongly attracted to artificial light, where they circle endlessly, become easy prey, or die from exhaustion. More subtly, this attraction pulls them away from normal feeding and breeding behavior. Even when artificial light does not kill moths outright, it reduces the likelihood that they will mate successfully or lay eggs in appropriate habitat.

This matters because moths are not just insects; they are part of a much larger ecological chain. Moth larvae—caterpillars—are a primary food source for many nesting birds. During the breeding season, adult songbirds often rely almost entirely on soft-bodied larvae to feed their young. The timing is precise. Birds initiate nesting to coincide with peaks in caterpillar availability, which in turn depends on the life cycles of moths and other insects. When artificial light suppresses moth reproduction or alters insect abundance, the effects may not be immediately visible, but they reappear weeks or months later as reduced nesting success, smaller broods, or failed fledging.

Large silk moths make this vulnerability especially clear. Species such as the Polyphemus moth have short adult lives, do not feed as adults, and rely on darkness and precise timing to reproduce. For such species, artificial light is not merely a nuisance; it can be a population-level threat. A single disrupted breeding window can mean zero offspring. When these moths decline, the loss reverberates outward, affecting predators, plants, and birds that depend on them.

Underlying all of these effects is a shared physiological mechanism that has received surprisingly little attention outside of specialist circles: melatonin. Long studied in humans as a hormone associated with sleep, melatonin is now understood to play a much broader role across taxa. Decades of work by Russel J. Reiter and others demonstrated that melatonin acts as a master regulator of circadian rhythms, seasonal timing, immune function, and reproductive physiology in animals ranging from insects to birds to mammals.

Crucially, melatonin production is strongly suppressed by short-wavelength light. White and blue-rich LEDs are particularly effective at shutting down melatonin synthesis, even at relatively low intensities. Red light, by contrast, has a much weaker effect. This difference explains why red lighting is used in settings where preserving night vision and circadian integrity matters, such as observatories, submarines, and increasingly, wildlife-sensitive environments.

When artificial lighting suppresses melatonin, the consequences extend far beyond sleep disruption. In birds, melatonin helps regulate photoperiodic responses that determine when breeding begins, when molt occurs, and how migration is timed. In insects, melatonin influences daily and seasonal rhythms that govern feeding and reproduction. In mammals, including humans, melatonin suppression is associated with increased oxidative stress, impaired immune function, and long-term health risks. The same biological signal—light at night—is altering internal chemistry across species, whether or not we choose to notice.

Seen in this light, the experiment in Denmark is not really about bats, or moths, or birds alone. It is about acknowledging that urban infrastructure sends powerful biological signals, and that those signals can be redesigned. The choice is not between safety and ecology, nor between progress and nostalgia. It is between treating environmental harm as an unfortunate externality, or recognizing that harm often arises from design decisions that can be revisited.

What makes lighting a particularly instructive case is that the solutions are neither exotic nor radical. Reducing brightness, narrowing spectral output, shielding fixtures, and placing light only where it is genuinely needed are all well within current technological capabilities. These changes do not require moral appeals or perfect behavior from individuals. They work quietly, continuously, and system-wide.

Artificial light at night illustrates a broader truth about modern environmental problems. Many of the most damaging effects are not the result of malice or ignorance, but of inherited assumptions embedded in infrastructure. We light cities the way we do because that is how they have been lit for decades, not because it is biologically benign. The costs—disrupted ecosystems, altered behavior, physiological stress—are paid by organisms that have no voice in planning meetings and little capacity to adapt.

The question raised by Denmark’s red streetlights is therefore not whether this approach is universally applicable or whether every city should immediately follow suit. The deeper question is whether we are willing to treat the night itself as something worth designing carefully, rather than as an empty backdrop to be flooded with light. In answering that question, we are also deciding how seriously we take the idea that shared systems should do less harm by default, instead of asking the most vulnerable—human and non-human alike—to simply endure the consequences.

orangecrush

(29,411 posts)
40. Fantastic
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 02:51 PM
10 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Feb 9, 2026, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Thank you, much appreciated.

And all of those points are beyond the grasp of the Idiocracy.

hunter

(40,487 posts)
43. It wasn't long ago that all the streetlights in San Jose, CA, were low pressure sodium orange.
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 03:35 PM
10 hrs ago

It was to protect astronomy at Lick Observatory on nearby Mt. Hamilton. This narrow spectra light, at 589.0 and 589.6 nm, was easy to filter out. It was probably better for insects and wildlife too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium-vapor_lamp#Low-pressure_sodium

With the explosive population growth of Silicon Valley and the advent of LED lighting this became a loosing battle. San Jose converted all it's street lighting to lower operating cost white LEDs in 2023.

Her in the U.S.A. I've seen red exterior lights installed on coastal developments but I don't think it's mandatory in most places.

pansypoo53219

(22,963 posts)
48. i hope it helps. i saw very few critters when i was there. black/white crows + a few english sparrows.
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 07:05 PM
6 hrs ago

not a mouse, squirrel, just a big bumble bee.

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