I think we should expand our conversation about the Epstein scandal.

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The trafficking of young girls is a horrific crime, and anyone involved in any capacity should be imprisoned, ostracized, excommunicated from all polite society, and suffer for all eternity. That said, the Epstein affair is so much more that should be in the conversation. It was money laundering. It was extortion and blackmail. It was espionage. And yes, it is becoming obvious it was murder. The trafficking and abuse of the the young victims was just the trap. It was the tool to suck some of the rich and powerful in. This is a much bigger operation, and it has been very successful in roiling the world order. Putin, Netanyahu, tRump, Musk, etc. are achieving a goal 2 world wars could not. They are destroying everything the US once held dear. They are replacing democracy with autocracy. They are replacing every good tendency with greed, avarice, and hate. Those covering these crimes up should meet the same fate as the perpetrators. They are complicit. We are a long way down this road but destroying everyone involved in the Epstein crimes in any way would be a good start to a return to normalcy. If we can't achieve accountability for this massive web of criminality, I fear for our future.

[FalloutShelter]

1. Well said and totally agree.

[gab13by13]

2. Hope you have better luck than I did.

I did a thread 10 minutes ago suggesting that Congressional Democrats come out in unison demanding that Howard Lutnick resign or be fired.

Make Krasnov defend a pedophile enabler, make Congressional Magats defend a pedophile protector.

I got one response.

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4. Post the link, thanks gab13by13

[gab13by13]

9. Maybe I will get criticized for attacking Democrats instead?

Democrats could wipe the Clinton subpoenas right off the front page, if they act.

Musk was involved with Epstein, wasn't Clarence Thomas?

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10. The majority of the cabinet from what I've read. Democratic leadership needs to act now!

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8. I didn't see it. I agree with you 100%. Other countries are responding to this with resignations

and firings every day. We seem to get "meh" as a response......

[LearnedHand]

3. You are totally on to something here

Also, it’s a spectacular way of reframing the issue. Here’s hoping some congressional Dem reads your post and has an idea, finally.

[gab13by13]

7. Republican Thomas Massie must have read the post,

he is calling on Epstein enabler Howard Lutnick to resign, Robert Garcia is calling on him to be fired or resign.

Would be a good hill for Congression Democrats to die on, a case could be made that Krasnov hired people who were involved with Epstein.

Thinking maybe Schumer and Jeffries are rounding up their members to demand that Lutnick be fired, what do you think?

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5. End the reign of the global mafia

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6. Exactly right. And it likely involves most of the GOP Congress, some of the USSC.

There were also boys trafficked. Focusing on young girls alone lets the paternalists just think, 'boys will be boys' or 'they are chattel, so what'?

[Starbeach]

11. Excellent summary

Of the rot and decay here. It’s massive, and targets everything we hold dear and that our soldiers fought for.

[gab13by13]

12. Republican Thomas Massie seems to be leading the way to release the Epstein files.

He spoke at a news conference and is asking his constituents which unredacted Epstein files they would like him to concentrate on? There are already requests in the link I provided.

Members of Congress are being given access to the unredacted Epstein files. Suggestions are already coming in with examples.

Wish that Congressional Democrats had thought of that.

Massie and Ro Khanna are on Epstein enablers like dogs on a bone.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/thomas-massie-asks-public-which-epstein-files-he-should-review-unredacted/ar-AA1VZ8Ub?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=6989fd7a4c2f46c296fa5438b0d094f7&ei=25

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13. I've been looking through the Jfiles and yes there is a silent movement

Of extremely rich people who are determined to rule the world to their liking.


One such instant was a private meeting being held at a retreat for 150 billionaires arranged by Thiel. This meeting was just a get together no speakers, just billionaires spitballing on how to _________________?

It was billed as being OFF THE RECORD.

There are also emails from a reputation agency on how to spin the underage girls exposure. It's a sickness that really needs to be exposed.

[republianmushroom]

14. But, but, the FBI

FBI concluded Jeffrey Epstein wasn't running a sex trafficking ring for powerful men, files show

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-client-list-sex-trafficking-049c96080a2ca2c12c84ac506437e50b

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143613314

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15. We do have a problem in this country, don't we?

When we can't trust our law enforcement, administration, Republican politicians, judiciary, traditional media, agency heads, and 37% of our fellow citizens, accountability and punishment seem pretty far off.....