So I heard a good response to why the Republicans will want the Save Act to fail.

[Baitball Blogger]

Last edited Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:28 PM - Edit history (1)

According to the Save Act, your birth certificate and current name must match, which means that women will be at a disadvantage. Our side is worried about this because it will directly affect women who married and changed their names. The only sure way around this is if you have a passport ID.

But some astute person on the net says that this is unfavorable to the Republicans, because more Democrats than Republicans carry a passport. The blue States, in other words, will be impacted less than the Red States, which will, in essence, disenfranchise their own trad wives.

Interesting to think about, anyway.

[underpants]

1. 🤔 Gee, they didn't seem to think this one out

[ChicagoTeamster]

16. They don't think anything through.

[MLWR]

23. RepubliSCUM don't believe that the law of unintended consequences applies to THEM.

[Jack Valentino]

35. Definitely not, especially since polling research has been showing that married women

are more likely to vote for Republicans than for Democrats... while for unmarried women, the opposite is true.


However, it doesn't appear that they will be able to pass this over a Senate filibuster anyway.

[UpInArms]

2. I am looking forward to having all the MAGAt women around me losing their votes

I realize that is mean and petty.

I could only wish that any of you had experienced the level of hate that has been directed at me from them. You might understand my point of view, were you me.

Thank you for putting up with my liberal ways and giving me a place where the constant vitriol is not poured upon me in an unceasing way.

[RainCaster]

3. trad wives change their name more often

Dem wives are more inclined to keep their last name.

[AZJonnie]

12. I was going to say the same thing

Also, this change is likely to cause a LOT of women to reconsider doing so in the future as well. Most liberal men don't mind one bit if their partner wants to keep her maiden name. Right-wing men are much more likely to care if they don't.

[thought crime]

14. We used my wife's (better) surname for our kids.

Among other things, her surname begins with a 'D' while mine begins with a 'W'. Our grownup kids are pretty grateful.

[pcdb]

30. They also have marriage certificates. Why would they be unable to vote?

[Sweet Freedom]

34. Because marriage certificates are not a valid form of ID in the SAVE Act /nt

[pcdb]

39. Right, but one would use the marriage certificate to get a valid form of ID to vote.

You can use your marriage certificate to get a REAL ID, U.S. passport, etc...

According to the bill, valid forms of documentary proof include a U.S. passport; a REAL ID-compliant ID that indicates U.S. citizenship, such as an enhanced driver’s license, which is available in a few states; a government-issued photo ID showing the U.S. as the applicant’s birthplace, such as a passport card; and a U.S. military ID if shown alongside a military record of service showing the U.S. as the applicant’s birthplace.

[FalloutShelter]

4. SHOCKER!

Even MAGA women don't want to jump through their Nazi hoops and to obtain a passport to vote?

I'm old enough to remember when you got a passport to see Paris ... not the voting booth at the local church hall.

This is some bullshit.

The PAPERS PLEASE ACT... has to go down in flames.

[Wednesdays]

22. In normal times, it would be a slam-dunk loser in the courts

...as a new form of poll tax.

But with this SCOTUS, ya never know.

[peggysue2]

5. I hope this is true and the SAVE ACT dies a miserable death

The whole idea is just another plan to reduce women to second-class citizens firmly under the thumb of the men in their lives. Less higher education, early marriages from which there is no escape (tighten up divorce law) and grinding out as many babies as possible. No contraception. No abortion, of course. And no way to vote scum-bags out of office.

Happy Days!

[usonian]

6. Easy to get papers. Know Rick!

[TBF]

7. Progressive women (and probably others as well) -

are already talking online about reverting to our maiden names. We will change them back through the courts, update our passports, and on we go. I already talked to my husband about it and he doesn't care.

[NH Ethylene]

9. That might be the easiest way to proceed.

Especially for women who have been married several times, changing their last name each time. They would have to provide marriage certificates and divorce decrees to complete the chain of name changes.

[TBF]

10. I have everything in my lock box -

will probably be a little annoying and time consuming, but I'm ready.

[maptap22]

27. I actually looked into changing mine back

but it is very costly...a few thousand if you go thru a lawyer. Yeah you can do it on your own if you want to brave the courts but that costs too.

My name is hyphenated (which is a real pain in the butt....SS messed up!) and my husband is dead so I wanted my name back but too much hassle. I do have a recently updated passport. Wish I had never changed my name - my DIL did not.

[NH Ethylene]

29. I went to my local county court and filled out a form.

It cost maybe $100 (about 15 years ago) and I went before a judge. Then it was done.

[TBF]

38. I hear you - but I did all mine myself

and every name change was in Virginia. The problem for me is I also changed my first name legally (so that makes it even more complicated - my birth certificate is completely different from my current name). I always hated it and everyone always called me by my nickname, but that was a nominal filing fee only because I typed it up myself. Then the first marriage name change, and second marriage (thankfully did much better with second pick - we've been married nearly 25 years). I did have a career and only changed it because I thought it would be easier if we had children. Now I would advise young women to not change it at all. At least I have all the documentation and a current passport.

I am so sad at what has happened to this country

[Walleye]

8. I am still curious to know what JD Vance's birth certificate name is

If we need a photo ID after we have registered why doesn’t the state issue photo registration cards. When I registered they sent me a registration card which I use at the polls every time. Put a photo on that and we got it made. Howis someone such as me, who’s been voting in the same polling place for 30 years supposed to prove she’s an American citizen right now. The people working the polls there recognize me!

[SSJVegeta]

11. Also more Democrats than Republican women are likely to keep their maiden name in marriage

😒 🤔

[Quiet Em]

13. Republicans also seem to think that only Republican women get married.

They think Democratic women are all single cat ladies.

Thankfully it looks like this horrible bill will never make it through the Senate.

The only reason they are even pushing this is because the con artist will not admit he lost the 2020 election and the con artist will try everything to cheat and steal elections.

[F-18_AMO]

15. Valid Point

Rethugs know that most Americans don’t have a passport. The impact on those who don’t have one or can’t afford one should not be underestimated. The fascists are looking at the midterms and not really beyond that because they won’t need to.

[Zackzzzz]

17. Back then, people would look at you strange if you said

that you wanted to keep your maiden name.
It just wasn't accepted.
I was happy to change my name because people always mispronounced it and
then they would say, "Oh, you must be .....", fill in a nationality, which I wasn't.
Anyway, nationality was a part of the conversation I never wanted to go to.
But then people mispronounced my new married name, etc.

[Exp]

18. Republican women might be more inclined to take their hubby's names, too. nt

[sdfernando]

19. Its possible the MAGATS are worried about this aspect of the Save Act,

but a lot aren't because they don't think women, any women, should have the right to vote.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

20. As Home Simpson would say.....

Dumb MAGAts!

[jgmiller]

21. They really just want the optics of them pushing it and it failing

This just helps their narrative when they lose the election that it was rigged.

[durablend]

24. I thought that too.

[Buckeyeblue]

25. I also think more Democratic women didn't change their last name when they married

My wife didn't. We talked about it and decided it's a weird tradition. We're married, not related, so why would want to share last names. We both have family members who send her mail as if she had changed her. We just laugh.

[Traildogbob]

26. I live in red hell

These mouth breathers, all own red hats, have little desire to leave the cove they inbreed in. They have no idea how to get a passport and can’t read enough to look it up. Probably have no birth certificate being the parents are cousins and brothers and sisters and pop out a half dozen at home. Passports have been made very hard to get here.
And if you ever watch Live PD on weekends, it is stunning how many mouth breathers get pulled over all across the country, and “do not” have a Fucking Drivers License. Many have trump shit stuck on the vehicles they are illegally driving, sometimes without a damn license plate. And are drunk. MAGA!
USA USA USA!

[Boo1]

28. Said this last week

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21015414

Republicans are the ones most likely to believe that their ID will be enough, or that this wont affect them. They would be the least likely to get the documents needed.

[Hope22]

31. My R sister married and divorced three times.....she moved back to her state of birth

after becoming disabled with a terminal disease. 2009 so even then you needed a photo ID to vote and travel by plane. I gathered up her divorce papers, birth certificate and every document posted on the SOS Website and headed out to the DMV. She was wheelchair bound so getting around in a car was a big job. After waiting 45 minutes at the DMV we were called to the counter. Her social security number was entered into the system and lo and behold that number was associated with another name. Yes, her maiden name from the driver license issued when she was 17. Of course I only had access to her most recent divorce papers, current drivers license and passport. Ten states away, two additional marriage certificates and two sets of divorce papers was not going to be an easy get! Even though she was backed into a corner my other sister who was with us leaned over and whispered to her that she may have to marry our cousin Billy to get her name back. Of course we burst out laughing.(when we told Billy about this later he was all in and thought it was at least a solution that would get sister an ID to vote) I was busy scooping up papers trying to leave nothing behind when a man who had been waiting and watching the shenanigans of the clerk for what seemed like forever came up to us and said, ‘I don’t know what the problem you ladies are having is but I have to say that you have the best senses of humor I have ever seen. We thanked him as it took some of the sting out of the whole debacle. We left and headed home.

You may ask how I got the whole thing worked out and why would I care knowing my sister was going to cancel out my vote. Everyone deserves their right to vote. And what I did involved using privilege to solve the problem and I’m not proud of it. Technically we had every document necessary as the website list did not state all divorce proceedings back to the point of maiden name were necessary. The next DMV I went to was headed by someone who knew me. She could see that technically I did have the papers that were asked for. She could see that my sister was in a world of hurt and processed the State ID for us. So many women will lose their their right to vote and travel about if they implement the birth certificate name matching the ID 30, 40,50 years down the road. It is complete insanity. For the most part this will affect females. I guess it’s time to stop changing names for whatever reason.

[Miguelito Loveless]

32. Also, liberal women are more likely to retain their name

[themaguffin]

33. this is bad for everyone.

[mercuryblues]

36. Not only that

women will not take their husband's name when they marry. That is a worse sin than pedophilia in republiKlan world.

[Bettie]

37. I'd also point out that right wing women

are more likely to change their name after marriage.

[Joinfortmill]

40. Makes some sense. Also, women in general aren't gonna like this.