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wcmagumba

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) wcmagumba Yesterday OP
Guilty as charged! Tasmanian Devil Yesterday #1
Yes, I mispronounced the word for many years PatSeg Yesterday #47
I'm with you Devil. Without thinking about it, I mispronounce it. Polly Hennessey Yesterday #54
People pronounce words as they hear them iemanja Yesterday #2
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Yesterday #9
Yup, exactly -- it could hardly be otherwise (nt) William Seger Yesterday #65
Jimmy Carter did it, too dpibel Yesterday #3
And Jimmy Carter was a nucular engineer in the US Navy! Munu Yesterday #46
Jimmy Carter pronounced "nuclear" as "NOO-kyuh-luhr" Brother Buzz Yesterday #4
Southern style Easterncedar Yesterday #6
There's something about the Southern style Brother Buzz Yesterday #8
That's old NY Italian Polybius Yesterday #15
My husband's dad, born and raised on "Lon-GUY-land"... 3catwoman3 Yesterday #34
My neighbor pronounces oil as "awl" Jersey Devil Yesterday #37
they say ALL Skittles Yesterday #18
That was it Brother Buzz 23 hrs ago #68
I heard him pronounce it as nookeyur. That lazy southern tongue at work. generalbetrayus Yesterday #10
Don't get me started! Easterncedar Yesterday #5
Gifted annoys the hell out of me róisín_dubh Yesterday #22
Easier for many to pronounce, because the tongue and mouth parts don't have to move as much tblue37 Yesterday #7
Because there is this concept called "having an accent". FascismIsDeath Yesterday #11
nope Skittles Yesterday #17
Um... YEP, its can be an accent thing. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #61
I grew up as a GI brat Skittles Yesterday #63
That has zero to do with accent róisín_dubh Yesterday #23
You don't know what you're talking about. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #60
my other pet peeve is when people say "calvary" when they mean "cavalry" eShirl Yesterday #12
supposably, realitor, infastructure, febuary, Don't get me started. lamp_shade Yesterday #13
Love your tagline, too Easterncedar Yesterday #25
Liberry for Library, Pitcher for Picture Diamond_Dog Yesterday #64
Jewlery, ekspecially, mischevious, expresso, ekscape.... STOP ME! lamp_shade Yesterday #66
My husband says mischevious. Diamond_Dog Yesterday #67
Because after a while, pronouncing a certain word differently becomes our trademark Polybius Yesterday #14
why do people say JEW-LER-Y instead of JEW-EL-RY Skittles Yesterday #16
And Reelator instead of realtor! Easterncedar Yesterday #26
My Wife Had That Habit ProfessorGAC Yesterday #49
Pronunciation can get tricky... Joinfortmill Yesterday #52
I guess if they hear George W Bush* (and admittedly Jimmy Carter before) say it that way hlthe2b Yesterday #19
Drove me nuts every time he did it. tavernier Yesterday #27
I believe certain regions in this country have traditional pronounciations. no_hypocrisy Yesterday #20
The OP is about pronouncing it "new kew ler". That isn't regional. Mariana Yesterday #43
Sort of like PEWWWlitzer not pullitzer. GreenWave Yesterday #21
It is one of the things I cringe at Bettie Yesterday #24
Regional pronunciation differences. Dulcinea Yesterday #28
It is not regional. Mariana Yesterday #44
Others Have Disagreed... ProfessorGAC Yesterday #50
I only accent the first syllable... Soul_of_Wit Yesterday #58
Axe instead of Ask MichMan Yesterday #29
LOL - that particular mispronunciation has always irked me. Where does the extra "u" come from??? Vinca Yesterday #30
New Clear J_William_Ryan Yesterday #31
I wish people would speak proper. Doodley Yesterday #32
Same reason people use the nonword "anyways" instead of "anyway." valleyrogue Yesterday #33
The same way people say ask as axe. That is what they heard from other people. n/t Jacson6 Yesterday #35
My dad corrected me when I was a boy. He said, say New Clear. Emile Yesterday #36
It's an innocent mispronunciation for most Johnny2X2X Yesterday #38
That 'nice-to-have-a-beer-with' equinophobic silver spoon cowboy Ilsa Yesterday #39
This message was self-deleted by its author DUMember24 Yesterday #40
I believe that Lex Luthor pronounced it that way in Superman IV Orrex Yesterday #41
Pacifically.... odins folly Yesterday #42
One of my good friends pronounces it this way fujiyamasan Yesterday #45
Its ridicalous! maxsolomon Yesterday #48
Riddikulus! :-) Ilsa Yesterday #55
regional accents? Just a guess. Joinfortmill Yesterday #51
Ike stahted it. yorkster Yesterday #53
Ambience is another head-scratcher to me Torchlight Yesterday #56
Thank you for Traildogbob Yesterday #57
It is not Dee-troit (n/m) Soul_of_Wit Yesterday #59
There Are Some Who Would Beg To Disagree, Big Time! ...... ColoringFool Yesterday #62
DEE is often used for emphasis Soul_of_Wit 19 hrs ago #70
My pet peeves JustAnotherGen 22 hrs ago #69
Don't Rebl2 19 hrs ago #71

Tasmanian Devil

(91 posts)
1. Guilty as charged!
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 01:41 AM
Yesterday

Yeah, I avoid saying nuclear because ... unless I really think about it in advance ... it comes out nucular. I don't know why, it's just a brain mis-wiring of some sort when I learned the word I guess.

It drives my wife crazy, my kids think it's funny, and I'm slowly getting better at it. But I think it might be another 10 or 20 years before it's natural for me to say it correctly. Maybe there's some exercises I could do

It's about the only thing I have in common with "W" ... he says it wrong most of the time as well.

PatSeg

(52,713 posts)
47. Yes, I mispronounced the word for many years
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 11:26 AM
Yesterday

and I just have to assume that was the way that I heard it growing up. It wasn't until people made fun of Bush that I realized I was pronouncing it wrong. I've made a conscious effort since then to say it correctly.

Polly Hennessey

(8,723 posts)
54. I'm with you Devil. Without thinking about it, I mispronounce it.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:13 PM
Yesterday

This means I avoid saying the word. It hurts my feelings when people pounce on me for being such a grammar dummy.

iemanja

(57,665 posts)
2. People pronounce words as they hear them
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 02:05 AM
Yesterday

That is how language is acquired.
When a critical mass pronounces a word a certain way, that becomes the pronunciation.

Response to iemanja (Reply #2)

William Seger

(12,321 posts)
65. Yup, exactly -- it could hardly be otherwise (nt)
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:35 PM
Yesterday

dpibel

(3,838 posts)
3. Jimmy Carter did it, too
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 02:06 AM
Yesterday

Drives me as nuts as it does you, but there you have it.

No idea how it got started.

Munu

(168 posts)
46. And Jimmy Carter was a nucular engineer in the US Navy!
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:56 AM
Yesterday

It's just a dialect difference. I don't see why people make such a big deal out of it.

Brother Buzz

(39,758 posts)
4. Jimmy Carter pronounced "nuclear" as "NOO-kyuh-luhr"
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 02:07 AM
Yesterday

I never knew if it was the U.S. Navy nuclear engineer or the Georgia peanut grower talking.

Easterncedar

(5,905 posts)
6. Southern style
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 02:09 AM
Yesterday

Brother Buzz

(39,758 posts)
8. There's something about the Southern style
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 02:21 AM
Yesterday

I encountered a Georgia mechanical engineer who pronounced oil as one syllable word, but I’ll be damned if I know how he did it.

Polybius

(21,684 posts)
15. That's old NY Italian
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 05:18 AM
Yesterday

My dad pronounced oil as earl.

3catwoman3

(29,041 posts)
34. My husband's dad, born and raised on "Lon-GUY-land"...
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 07:45 AM
Yesterday

…had an earl boiner (oil burner) in his basement.

Jersey Devil

(10,802 posts)
37. My neighbor pronounces oil as "awl"
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 09:03 AM
Yesterday

x

Skittles

(170,431 posts)
18. they say ALL
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 05:44 AM
Yesterday

but have no problem pronouncing other OI words (for example, coil doesn't become CALL)

Brother Buzz

(39,758 posts)
68. That was it
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 01:29 PM
23 hrs ago

We were discussing lubricants for old machines, and at one point, he dropped ‘whale’. Whale? I thought he was talking about sperm oil, once a valued fine light lubricating oil. But then it hit me, he way saying way oil.

generalbetrayus

(1,649 posts)
10. I heard him pronounce it as nookeyur. That lazy southern tongue at work.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 02:55 AM
Yesterday

Easterncedar

(5,905 posts)
5. Don't get me started!
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 02:08 AM
Yesterday

Why has ‘gifted’ replaced ‘given’? When did mitten and gotten become mi’en and gah en? Where did the first N in government disappear to? And the second one in environment?

No, sorry, must stop, breathe, go to sleep. The world has bigger problems. (I will, however, be grinding my teeth over nukyular for a while, too.) good night!

róisín_dubh

(12,284 posts)
22. Gifted annoys the hell out of me
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 06:42 AM
Yesterday

Influencer-speak 🤮

tblue37

(68,368 posts)
7. Easier for many to pronounce, because the tongue and mouth parts don't have to move as much
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 02:17 AM
Yesterday

or into as difficult configurations.

Try the two different pronunciations next to each other, to see how much more work the proper pronunciation is. And since that is so, there are so many people saying it the wrong way, that people saying "nucular" have their pronunciation pretty consistently reinforced, as well.

FascismIsDeath

(113 posts)
11. Because there is this concept called "having an accent".
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 03:52 AM
Yesterday

Skittles

(170,431 posts)
17. nope
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 05:21 AM
Yesterday

that ain't no accent, that is mispronounced - there is a difference

I know, I live in Texas and not everyone sounds like an idiot.

FascismIsDeath

(113 posts)
61. Um... YEP, its can be an accent thing.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:28 PM
Yesterday

Regional accents and pronouncing things incorrectly go hand in hand in certain cases. I grew up in WV and its definitely a thing. That's just common knowledge even if you consider that anecdotal experience is virtually worthless.

Skittles

(170,431 posts)
63. I grew up as a GI brat
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:31 PM
Yesterday

I know the difference between regional accents and mispronunciations

over and out

róisín_dubh

(12,284 posts)
23. That has zero to do with accent
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 06:43 AM
Yesterday

It’s pronounced incorrectly.
It’s not like when my mother says “Jennifah” instead of Jennifer, or I say aluminum but Brits say aluminium: that’s a difference in accent (first one) and spelling (second one).

FascismIsDeath

(113 posts)
60. You don't know what you're talking about.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:26 PM
Yesterday

I grew up in Appalachia. Pronouncing things "incorrectly" is very much part of certain accents.

eShirl

(20,163 posts)
12. my other pet peeve is when people say "calvary" when they mean "cavalry"
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 04:24 AM
Yesterday

lamp_shade

(15,424 posts)
13. supposably, realitor, infastructure, febuary, Don't get me started.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 05:14 AM
Yesterday

Easterncedar

(5,905 posts)
25. Love your tagline, too
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 06:52 AM
Yesterday

Diamond_Dog

(40,174 posts)
64. Liberry for Library, Pitcher for Picture
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:33 PM
Yesterday

GAH!!

lamp_shade

(15,424 posts)
66. Jewlery, ekspecially, mischevious, expresso, ekscape.... STOP ME!
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:39 PM
Yesterday

Diamond_Dog

(40,174 posts)
67. My husband says mischevious.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:42 PM
Yesterday

Drives me crazy. I always tell him it’s a good thing he taught math and not English!

Polybius

(21,684 posts)
14. Because after a while, pronouncing a certain word differently becomes our trademark
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 05:16 AM
Yesterday

We now know it's pronounced wrong, but since we've been doing it for so long, we're sticking to it.

Skittles

(170,431 posts)
16. why do people say JEW-LER-Y instead of JEW-EL-RY
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 05:20 AM
Yesterday

they just say what they hear others say

Easterncedar

(5,905 posts)
26. And Reelator instead of realtor!
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 06:54 AM
Yesterday

ProfessorGAC

(76,292 posts)
49. My Wife Had That Habit
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 11:57 AM
Yesterday

And, her brother was a realtor!
She changed the way she said when she knew it bugged me. She's an educated woman
She shouldn't mispronounce a simple word. She just didn't care until she knew I did.

Joinfortmill

(20,622 posts)
52. Pronunciation can get tricky...
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:12 PM
Yesterday

From Merriam-Webster

According to Merriam-Webster, "jewelry" is primarily pronounced in the US as JOO-ul-ree (
) or JOOL-ree (
), often with three syllables, but two is acceptable. The key is to start with "jewel," followed by "-ree," avoiding the common mispronunciation that rhymes with "foolery".

hlthe2b

(113,345 posts)
19. I guess if they hear George W Bush* (and admittedly Jimmy Carter before) say it that way
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 05:46 AM
Yesterday

long enough, it starts to stick. Hell after Bush* Merriam Webster added "nucular" as an alternate pronunciation.

It is among the most jarring mispronunciations for me, though there are others.

Right now it is the attractive woman on the Metamucil commercials with the Golden Retriever ('love the dog) who claims to be a gastroenterologist, yet she pronounces it "gas-tren-tol-ogist"... If I could not pronounce my own medical specialty, I surely would not on tv to show my own ignorance. It is grating as hell to me. Most of the public says "vet-in-air-ee-an" for veterinarian, but I have yet to hear many actual veterinarians drop all the syllables. Go figure.

tavernier

(14,399 posts)
27. Drove me nuts every time he did it.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 06:57 AM
Yesterday

no_hypocrisy

(54,650 posts)
20. I believe certain regions in this country have traditional pronounciations.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 06:18 AM
Yesterday

Warshington instead of Washington

"Pahk yah cah" for "park your car".

"Chow-dah" for chowder

"Nuclar" is just one example.

Mariana

(15,615 posts)
43. The OP is about pronouncing it "new kew ler". That isn't regional.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:12 AM
Yesterday

There are people from all over the country (and the world) who mispronounce it that way.

GreenWave

(12,499 posts)
21. Sort of like PEWWWlitzer not pullitzer.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 06:36 AM
Yesterday

The first one was where he lived, the rest ???

Bettie

(19,498 posts)
24. It is one of the things I cringe at
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 06:49 AM
Yesterday

every time.

My three sons pronounce it correctly, becasue I made sure they do.

Now, they cringe when others say it wrong as well.

And it irks me as well.

Dulcinea

(9,908 posts)
28. Regional pronunciation differences.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 07:00 AM
Yesterday

Nucular, IN-surance, etc. are all characteristic of Southern speech. Most areas of the nation have something like this. Pittsburgh, where I grew up, has plenty of local words & pronunciations.

Mariana

(15,615 posts)
44. It is not regional.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:13 AM
Yesterday

There are people from all over the country - and the world - who mispronounce it that way.

ProfessorGAC

(76,292 posts)
50. Others Have Disagreed...
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:01 PM
Yesterday

...and I do too, I do agree on regional pronunciation differences.
I'll add one that bugs me (personal interest); GIT-ar, instead of gi-TAR.
I live in NE Illinois and I've never heard anyone from around here pronounce it with the accent on the first syllable. But, I've heard it down south.

Soul_of_Wit

(59 posts)
58. I only accent the first syllable...
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:23 PM
Yesterday

...in the phrase Stevie Git-tar Miller. I may have been a teenager in the '70s.

MichMan

(16,929 posts)
29. Axe instead of Ask
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 07:10 AM
Yesterday

Vinca

(53,633 posts)
30. LOL - that particular mispronunciation has always irked me. Where does the extra "u" come from???
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 07:21 AM
Yesterday

J_William_Ryan

(3,428 posts)
31. New Clear
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 07:25 AM
Yesterday

Only two syllables.

Doodley

(11,799 posts)
32. I wish people would speak proper.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 07:26 AM
Yesterday

valleyrogue

(2,645 posts)
33. Same reason people use the nonword "anyways" instead of "anyway."
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 07:44 AM
Yesterday

Or misuse "less" when they mean "fewer."
Both of those are pet peeves of mine.

Jacson6

(1,858 posts)
35. The same way people say ask as axe. That is what they heard from other people. n/t
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 07:57 AM
Yesterday

Emile

(41,596 posts)
36. My dad corrected me when I was a boy. He said, say New Clear.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:00 AM
Yesterday

It worked, lol.

Johnny2X2X

(23,898 posts)
38. It's an innocent mispronunciation for most
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 09:35 AM
Yesterday

For Bush, I think he did it to sound more folksy. And today, those on the Right who say it, do so to be anti educated.

Nuclear technology seems complicated and the luddites in the GOP consider anything complicated to be the educated elite. Notice how Trump throws it into speeches often because he had an uncle who was an engineer. It's an appeal to expertise fallacy. "My uncle did this job that you don't understand, so I'm smart..." Trump's uncle was actually an electrical engineer who taught at MIT and did write about nuclear physics and founded a company that worked on nuclear medical technology. His business collapsed when the government cut his funding.

But at its core to this brand of fascists in charge right now, it means, "leave the complicated stuff to us, we get it, and we'll handle it for you. Don't let those educated elite libs tell you how to pronounce words."

Ilsa

(64,093 posts)
39. That 'nice-to-have-a-beer-with' equinophobic silver spoon cowboy
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 09:36 AM
Yesterday

named George W Bush who grew up in Texas and wherever his prep school was (and Kennebunkport) said "nukuler" all the time. I suspect he just had lazy speech. It used to drive me crazy.

Response to wcmagumba (Original post)

Orrex

(66,870 posts)
41. I believe that Lex Luthor pronounced it that way in Superman IV
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 09:41 AM
Yesterday

Can't recall if he did the same in Superman: The Movie.

odins folly

(571 posts)
42. Pacifically....
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 09:59 AM
Yesterday

Had a guy who was higher on the food chain than me so I wasn’t about to card him on it, but I told my boss that if he could make up words so could I. I made up “espifically”…
She about spit out a mouthful of coffee during a morning briefing when I said “I’ve been looking at the training numbers by manager and some, espifically, the overnight teams need to do more during down times”….

No one else batted an eye….

fujiyamasan

(1,455 posts)
45. One of my good friends pronounces it this way
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:52 AM
Yesterday

Yeah, it drives me a bit nuts but I’m not an ass hole to call him out over it. We’re from the Midwest for what it’s worth.



maxsolomon

(38,451 posts)
48. Its ridicalous!
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 11:50 AM
Yesterday

People are so lacksadaisical in the pronunciations!

Ilsa

(64,093 posts)
55. Riddikulus! :-)
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:16 PM
Yesterday
?si=ZYEj8ZK_raYNYTCV

Joinfortmill

(20,622 posts)
51. regional accents? Just a guess.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:07 PM
Yesterday

yorkster

(3,739 posts)
53. Ike stahted it.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:12 PM
Yesterday

I know. I heard it on the teevee as a kid.

Torchlight

(6,593 posts)
56. Ambience is another head-scratcher to me
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:19 PM
Yesterday

Kinda makes me want to see that person taken away in an Ahmbulance. But I've go too many hard-baked, Texas-long drawl mispronunciations I use regularly, so I'm in no real position.

Traildogbob

(12,819 posts)
57. Thank you for
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:23 PM
Yesterday

Spelling the differences. I remember the hollering over W saying it wrong and I could not tell how it was wrongly pronounced and got paranoid about how I said it. I never said it too much, but not many instances I needed to say the word. Until now, with this asshole, we have to say it frequently, and fearfully.

Soul_of_Wit

(59 posts)
59. It is not Dee-troit (n/m)
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:25 PM
Yesterday

ColoringFool

(472 posts)
62. There Are Some Who Would Beg To Disagree, Big Time! ......
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:31 PM
Yesterday
?si=BRzKTNRmmfdgBRSX

Soul_of_Wit

(59 posts)
70. DEE is often used for emphasis
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 05:11 PM
19 hrs ago

It's funny hearing Mitch--in the same sentence--pronounce Detroit (the city) correctly, and then say DEE-troit Wheels.

JustAnotherGen

(37,835 posts)
69. My pet peeves
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 01:48 PM
22 hrs ago

Are loose vs lose and mute vs moot.

Rebl2

(17,576 posts)
71. Don't
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 05:16 PM
19 hrs ago

Think they really look to see how word is spelled.

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