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malaise

(296,199 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 02:17 PM 13 hrs ago

Relationship with Trump may be beyond repair, Keir Starmer told

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/03/relationship-with-trump-may-be-beyond-repair-keir-starmer-told

Keir Starmer has been warned his relationship with Donald Trump may be beyond repair after the US president derided the prime minister for consulting his team about military decisions, in a mocking impersonation.

In a new low for UK-US relations, Trump appeared to imitate Starmer in a weak voice during an Easter lunch speech at the White House, and said the UK was “not our best” ally.

The episode is Trump’s latest broadside at Starmer and the UK’s “old” aircraft carriers after the prime minister declined to let the US use British military bases for its initial strikes on Iran.

Following the latest attack on Starmer, diplomatic and political figures said he was right to brush off the criticism but added that the relationship was very damaged and he would need to redouble efforts to built international relations elsewhere.

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Can’t believe Charles is still planning that trip

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Relationship with Trump may be beyond repair, Keir Starmer told (Original Post) malaise 13 hrs ago OP
Charles should cancel that trip later this month kimbutgar 13 hrs ago #1
Absolutely! (Elizabeth would have. A future King William would have.) QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #29
Starmer looks weak not giving Dump JBTaurus83 13 hrs ago #2
You realize the great danger of any nation's leader openly "slapping" Trump down? Swede 13 hrs ago #6
I do JBTaurus83 12 hrs ago #19
A lot of this just comes down to power dynamics fujiyamasan 13 hrs ago #11
But Starmer and Macron are voices of reason to keep the US and the EU/NATO engaged militarily and diplomatically ChicagoTeamster 12 hrs ago #15
I understand JBTaurus83 12 hrs ago #20
re: "They're also heavily dependent on the US for trade, and even more so after Brexit." thesquanderer 10 hrs ago #24
Indeed, they dug their own graves ...But it's time to claim their dignity Bread and Circuses 10 hrs ago #28
Charles should really rethink the planned trip to visit Trump...it's a lose lose situation for him... wcmagumba 13 hrs ago #3
"Trump" ruet 13 hrs ago #4
From what I've read, it's the British govt. yorkster 13 hrs ago #5
Correct malaise 13 hrs ago #8
Yup. Turns out diplomacy is actually a good quality to have if you're the leader of our nation. Baitball Blogger 13 hrs ago #7
You shouldn't be trying to repair it, you upper class twits! RockRaven 13 hrs ago #9
Agree - you don't mingle with war criminals malaise 13 hrs ago #10
I'm still aghast that Starmer lasted this long. ananda 12 hrs ago #12
Agree malaise 12 hrs ago #13
Trump being Trump to trying appear dominant BeneteauBum 12 hrs ago #14
Someone's got to be joking. littlemissmartypants 12 hrs ago #16
I can't imagine any leader amongst our "allies" has any understanding of how to deal with NoMoreRepugs 12 hrs ago #17
For the sake of the US role in and relationship with the rest of the world, there have to be serious wiggs 12 hrs ago #18
Charles needs to cancel. Stop enabling Tramp. 617Blue 11 hrs ago #21
But, but, but they're freeeenz... littlemissmartypants 11 hrs ago #22
Tramp will embarrass Charles if he comes here. Starmer could lean from Carney in Canada. 617Blue 10 hrs ago #25
Yep. Charles is either delusional, close to death or both, imo. littlemissmartypants 10 hrs ago #27
King Charles should find and excuse to withdraw his visit. Nothing good is going to come of it. Joinfortmill 11 hrs ago #23
The UK Government and the Monarch Need to be UNAVAILABLE Bread and Circuses 10 hrs ago #26
The best scenario for King Charles is this FakeNoose 8 hrs ago #30

kimbutgar

(27,257 posts)
1. Charles should cancel that trip later this month
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 02:19 PM
13 hrs ago

He is of danger of inhaling and being poisoned by the awful smell of the 🍊🐖💩!

Swede

(39,525 posts)
6. You realize the great danger of any nation's leader openly "slapping" Trump down?
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 02:30 PM
13 hrs ago

It's just not worth the consequences of doing it.

fujiyamasan

(1,703 posts)
11. A lot of this just comes down to power dynamics
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 03:11 PM
13 hrs ago

The UK, as a small country has little leverage and isn’t really that powerful either on the world stage at this point. They’re also heavily dependent on the US for trade, and even more so after Brexit.

Trump knows he can bully them and get away with it.

ChicagoTeamster

(979 posts)
15. But Starmer and Macron are voices of reason to keep the US and the EU/NATO engaged militarily and diplomatically
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 03:54 PM
12 hrs ago

Starmer should just say nothing directly but indirectly say that the EU and UN are open to negotiating an exit path for Israel and the US to cease operations against IRAN and ignore stupid Trump's comments and if pressed for a response by the media, say he's focusing on more significant considerations and doesn't have time to address Mr Trump's comments.

JBTaurus83

(1,399 posts)
20. I understand
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 04:11 PM
12 hrs ago

It’s just frustrating. I wish he would come out more like Carney in Canada, Spain, or Mexico.

thesquanderer

(13,012 posts)
24. re: "They're also heavily dependent on the US for trade, and even more so after Brexit."
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 05:16 PM
10 hrs ago

related, from the aricle:

Kim Darroch, the former national security adviser, and a former British ambassador to the US, said Starmer was “right to resist getting directly involved in this ‘war of choice’”.

“But it has unquestionably done significant damage to his personal relationship with Trump,” he said. “It could conceivably blow over. But it is equally possible that a damaged Trump could lash out, whether against Nato, or selected Europeans, including the UK, perhaps with new or higher tariffs – a risk which makes rebuilding our links with the EU single market an immediate priority.”

wcmagumba

(6,212 posts)
3. Charles should really rethink the planned trip to visit Trump...it's a lose lose situation for him...
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 02:22 PM
13 hrs ago

The UK will come out looking subservient and bad in general...

yorkster

(3,843 posts)
5. From what I've read, it's the British govt.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 02:30 PM
13 hrs ago

that determines state visits, but hard to believe either Charles or Starmer still think this is a good idea.

Baitball Blogger

(52,368 posts)
7. Yup. Turns out diplomacy is actually a good quality to have if you're the leader of our nation.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 02:33 PM
13 hrs ago

RockRaven

(19,406 posts)
9. You shouldn't be trying to repair it, you upper class twits!
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 03:03 PM
13 hrs ago

You should be saying "Donald Trump is irrational, ignorant, untrustworthy and unfit for diplomatic and strategic relationships. We look forward to standing by the American people when they next have a reliable administration in office."

malaise

(296,199 posts)
10. Agree - you don't mingle with war criminals
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 03:09 PM
13 hrs ago

Is the US committing war crimes by targeting Iran’s civilian infrastructure?

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2026/apr/03/us-war-crimes-iran-civilian-infrastructure-international-law-school-strike

International law experts ‘seriously concerned’ about ‘strikes on schools, health centres and homes’ in contravention of Geneva conventions



ananda

(35,179 posts)
12. I'm still aghast that Starmer lasted this long.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 03:40 PM
12 hrs ago

He should've ditched Trump awhile back.

BeneteauBum

(516 posts)
14. Trump being Trump to trying appear dominant
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 03:48 PM
12 hrs ago

but he’s not…..just an immature brain in a rapidly aging body.

Peace ☮️

littlemissmartypants

(33,745 posts)
16. Someone's got to be joking.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 03:58 PM
12 hrs ago

Psychopaths don't have relationships. They have marks and victims. Pah leeze.


Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior


NoMoreRepugs

(12,089 posts)
17. I can't imagine any leader amongst our "allies" has any understanding of how to deal with
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 03:59 PM
12 hrs ago

TrumpenFuhrer when he has one of his pissyfits. Does anyone???

wiggs

(8,816 posts)
18. For the sake of the US role in and relationship with the rest of the world, there have to be serious
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 04:08 PM
12 hrs ago

consequences, purging, indictments, derision, contempt, and justice BY THE US against Trumpism and the players in govt taking advantage of it.

Otherwise the distancing and suspicions everyone is considering against TSF will continue against the US.

littlemissmartypants

(33,745 posts)
27. Yep. Charles is either delusional, close to death or both, imo.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 05:29 PM
10 hrs ago

Thanks for the reply, 617Blue. ❤️

Joinfortmill

(21,190 posts)
23. King Charles should find and excuse to withdraw his visit. Nothing good is going to come of it.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 05:05 PM
11 hrs ago

Trump will make a mockery of both of them.

Bread and Circuses

(2,074 posts)
26. The UK Government and the Monarch Need to be UNAVAILABLE
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 05:28 PM
10 hrs ago

For any visits to the USA.

Grow a spine.

FakeNoose

(41,691 posts)
30. The best scenario for King Charles is this
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 08:04 PM
8 hrs ago

He goes to Toronto, or maybe Ottawa, and then he tells Chump to come and visit him there. He should say "I'm not setting foot inside the United States, so you come here."

Chump won't come of course, and he'll look like an asshole. I wish it would happen within the context of the World Cup Games. There's no way to predict the schedule, but maybe there would be a playoff of UK or Canada against a big team. Then King Charles can say "I need to attend this because it's more important than coming to the US."

If he did that, I'd root for UK or Canada to win.

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