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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you object to daylight time year around, and please read the finding how unhealthy it is
https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2025/November/PDF/permanent-standard-time-health-benefits-pdf.pdfResearch Shows Permanent Standard Time Is Healthier
Than Daylight Saving Time
Please let your rep know.
When Florida Scott suggested it he said that he heard from his constituents. Might be OK for Floridians but not for many of us in the north when sunrise will be at 9:00 am at the dead of winter. Also our summers are hot - expecting mid 90s this week - so many prefer to have their chores early in the morning. And having more daylight in the morning than sunset after 9:00.
(If you do support daylight saving year around please ignore this post.)
Coventina
(30,145 posts)Big thumbs down on permanent DS for us!
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(52,749 posts)FHRRK1
(222 posts)Grew up in Phx, where we didn't have Day Light Saving and never understood the need. Understood that an extra hour of 100 degree plus isn't good.
Moved to CA and partially got why most states switch. School kids walking in the dark, sundown at 4:50 PM during rush hour. Understood the argument from farm States.
But now most seem minor, just stick with Std. Time, bit of an impact on certain area, farmers are plowing and seeding fields using GPS and headlights. With that, we should have terabytes of data on impact of accidents between Standard and Daylight time. (Understanding the days after the switch are likely the most variable) If it is wash, it seems silly not to make the switch.
sarisataka
(23,289 posts)My preference would be standard time but I think we can adjust.
Blues Heron
(9,221 posts)We do summer time for summer because theres more hours of light, then, we do winter time for winter because theres no point whatsoever in hustling out the door an hour early when its dark and cold out.
sarisataka
(23,289 posts)regardless of what our clocks say. A person's job says they have to be there at a certain time and it doesn't matter if it is light or dark; I have even seen farmers working at night by the lights on their vehicles.
Skittles
(173,985 posts)as someone who worked 12 hour night shifts for decades, I found the chronic whining about time change to be over-the-top ridiculous
3catwoman3
(30,383 posts)...to visit family/friends for a weekend, or stay up later than usual for one reason or another.
Does it take 2 weeks to recover from that?
Skittles
(173,985 posts)if a one hour time difference wreaks havoc, there are more issues than just time change
pnwmom
(110,358 posts)Why is changing the clocks twice a year such a big deal?
People who are in favor of this don't consider the effects on people who live on the extremes. As far north as Seattle, the winter mornings are already dark. We don't need to add an extra hour of darkness.
sarisataka
(23,289 posts)Darkness lasts a long time on Minnesota winter days. The is why my preference would be for standard time.
I know however that there are going to be days I go to work when it is dark and when I head home it is also already dark.
pnwmom
(110,358 posts)it to be light at 4 am either.
hunter
(41,005 posts)I find the time changes of long distance air travel equally unpleasant.
My biological clock must be strong. To me setting our clocks forward and back is disorienting. I've enjoyed living in places where it isn't done.
pnwmom
(110,358 posts)hunter
(41,005 posts)Local domestic time could be measured as "hours from sunrise." Phone apps could keep track of this. For example the school day might start three hours after sunrise. A farmer might get out of bed an hour before sunrise. A simple microprocessor can calculate sunrise. That's something the first clockmakers didn't have. There are some good sunrise calculators on the internet if anyone want to get a feeling for how that might work.
Sunrise-to-sunrise times are not consistent throughout the year but so what? That's the way humans lived before clocks were common. Time followed the sun.
Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) would be used for work where the variable length of time from sunrise to sunrise would confuse things. Railroads and airlines would use UTC, hospitals and other 24/7 workplaces would use UTC, etc. If some event of worldwide interest was scheduled for a particular UTC time, perhaps an important football match or a moon landing, the UTC time and date would be advertised and nobody would be confused.
LeftInTX
(35,248 posts)Only Mexico's border areas are on DST. They will really have a cow if it's 24/7. Likewise, Canada will likely swtich to all DST just so everything is synchronized with the US.
Most fo the world is getting away from it! We're regressing! Light gray is where they used to have it. Dark grey is where it never was.
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Orange is DST in the southern hemisphere.
dweller
(29,076 posts)That should be fun
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(52,749 posts)Wifes husband
(805 posts)Just pick a time and stay with it.
pnwmom
(110,358 posts)of adapting to an hour change?
Wifes husband
(805 posts)Changing clocks for an entire society is another.
I understand we can do it. We already in fact do it. Just stupid, that's all.
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dpibel
(4,057 posts)how could anyone doubt?
progressoid
(53,639 posts)he's hardly ever wrong.
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(52,749 posts)Although chronic effects of remaining in daylight saving time year-round have not been well studied, daylight saving time is less aligned with human circadian biology which, due to the impacts of the delayed natural light/dark cycle on human activity, could result in circadian misalignment, which has been associated in some studies with increased cardiovascular disease risk, metabolic syndrome and other health risks. It is, therefore, the position of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine that these seasonal time changes should be abolished in favor of a fixed, national, year-round standard time.
https://aasm.org/advocacy/position-statements/daylight-saving-time-an-american-academy-of-sleep-medicine-position-statement
pnwmom
(110,358 posts)across a time zone. No big deal.
Being here in Seattle, I don't like the idea of winter mornings even later than they are now.
ToxMarz
(3,245 posts)The problem is constantly changing it implying time is flawed and we are changing it because it is the problem.
We are the problem in constantly trying to bend time for our convenience and then the argument is just about who's convenience is most important.
SET TIME FREE!!!
progressoid
(53,639 posts)One of my faves is that he has decided that carbon dioxide will feed the bacteria in his gut and is blowing the gas up his bum regularly, one and a half liters at a time, claiming that it creates a force field around him.
Stacey Grove
(252 posts)question everything
(52,749 posts)Although chronic effects of remaining in daylight saving time year-round have not been well studied, daylight saving time is less aligned with human circadian biology which, due to the impacts of the delayed natural light/dark cycle on human activity, could result in circadian misalignment, which has been associated in some studies with increased cardiovascular disease risk, metabolic syndrome and other health risks. It is, therefore, the position of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine that these seasonal time changes should be abolished in favor of a fixed, national, year-round standard time.
https://aasm.org/advocacy/position-statements/daylight-saving-time-an-american-academy-of-sleep-medicine-position-statement
GJGCA
(343 posts)3catwoman3
(30,383 posts)Pretty much what I was thinking but had not come up with such a succinct description.
LogDog75
(1,505 posts)Daylight Saving Time was useful when our country was a agrarian nation and when we became an industrial nation but the reasoning behind the idea was to give farmers and industrial workers more daylight working hours. Farmers didn't like the idea of DST and DST was mainly for the owners of factories to get more work out of they employees.
Today, we have modern lighting for our workplaces and the need for daylight for work is minimal. DST may have been useful in its day but now not so much. I'd favor repealing DST and going to natural cycle of day and night. One problem would be a lot of electronic products that keep time are programmed for automatic DST adjustments and are not programmable.
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(52,749 posts)Tree Lady
(13,471 posts)Had to bite my tongue to be polite to the jerk. I always wonder if they look up if you are a democrat and delete whatever you say.
I want it to stay standard all year because I hate how late sun does down in summer and waiting till 8pm to walk dog.
kentuck
(116,326 posts)...they didn't just say, "Come in an hour earlier", rather than attach the rule to everyone??
dsc
(53,472 posts)but either way will be inconvenient for some people with the current time zones so it should be coupled with editing the time zones. Eastern Time for example encompasses Maine, NC outer banks on the east and Cincinnati, Louisville, Lexington, and Indianapolis in the west. All standard messes with the east and all daylight with the west.