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OnlinePoker

(6,080 posts)
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:50 PM Monday

Proposed Alberta separation referendum question approved

Source: Global News

Alberta’s election agency announced Monday it has approved a proposed referendum question on the province separating from Canada.

The question seeks a yes or no answer to: “Do you agree that the province of Alberta should cease to be a part of Canada to become an independent state?”

Elections Alberta says the proponent — the Alberta Prosperity Project and its chief executive officer, Mitch Sylvestre — have until early January to appoint a financial officer for its petition campaign, after which signature collection can begin.

Read more: https://globalnews.ca/news/11588446/alberta-separation-referendum-question/?utm_source=NewsletterNational&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2025



Alberta is the most right-wing province in the country and I expect this could get traction going forward. They're already working on a law to take the province out of the Canada Pension Plan. Nothing like destabilizing the country more than Trump has already succeeded in doing with his tariffs.
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rampartd

(3,587 posts)
2. an independent alberta could petition for admission as state.
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 07:20 PM
Monday

would any populace agree to give up canadian civilization for trumpist anarchy?

not fooled

(6,590 posts)
6. How much money has/will putin contribute and how will it be laundered?
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 09:11 PM
Monday

Alberta needs to go read up on what happened to the UK after Brexit, another putin active measure.

ancianita

(42,763 posts)
7. Alberta produces roughly 84-90% of Canada's total oil output. Not surprising that the Big Four --
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 09:59 PM
Monday

Canadian Natural Resources (CNRL), Suncor Energy, Cenovus Energy, and Imperial Oil -- want to privatize the entire province into a corporate province. Enbridge leads in energy infrastructure.

Much of these companies' oil is exported to the U.S., and they'll likely be working with U.S. energy oligarchs like
Harold Hamm (Continental Resources), Kelcy Warren (Energy Transfer), Charles Koch, Jeffery Hildebrand, and Timothy Dunn, alongside powerful CEOs like Vicki Hollub (Occidental Petroleum) and Thomas A. Fanning (Southern Company), who all leverage their positions to impact policy for profit, particularly concerning deregulation and infrastructure expansion.

ancianita

(42,763 posts)
12. Sure. But when a secession movement is begun by corporate oligarchs, the result is a fascist state. Not democracy.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:15 AM
Tuesday

Justice matters.

(9,285 posts)
9. Not so fast. Re: Treaty First Nations
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 12:03 AM
Tuesday
Alberta Justice Rules That Provincial Separation Without Informed Consent Violates Treaty Rights

ANNews) – Alberta Judge Colin Feasby has ruled that a proposed citizen-initiated referendum on provincial separation is unconstitutional. In a decision delivered on December 5, 2025 – just hours after the provincial government introduced Bill 14 to bypass the Court of King’s Bench – Justice Feasby ruled that the move violates both Charter rights and the Numbered Treaties that form Alberta’s very foundation.


Source: https://www.albertanativenews.com/alberta-justice-rules-that-provincial-separation-without-informed-consent-violates-treaty-rights/

Well well well... the "oil" does not belong to the separatists...

OnlinePoker

(6,080 posts)
16. That was the original question. They amended it to make it constitutional.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:28 PM
5 hrs ago

The original was: Do you agree that the province of Alberta shall become a sovereign country and cease to be a province in Canada?

The amended question is: Do you agree that the province of Alberta should cease to be a part of Canada to become an independent state?

I don't really see much of a difference, except for the term "sovereign country".

Justice matters.

(9,285 posts)
17. Under the UN Charter, Alberta is not a distinct nation.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:27 PM
3 hrs ago

Neither by Ethnicity and official language of the legislature (English).

An independent state they cannot become. Québec, as a distinct nation with a majority of French-speaking citizens Ethnicity and official language of the provincial legislature could be recognized by the UN Charter as an independent state. It's not the case for Alberta.

MrsCheaplaugh

(263 posts)
10. I'm an Albertan.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 08:27 AM
Tuesday

Our problem is we have the most one-toothed, cross-eyed, sister-fucking goobers this side of Oklahoma in our population; however, they've always been a noisy minority. The Forever Canada petition collected 456,000 signatures well before its deadline. This stupid petition will never get off the ground.

OnlinePoker

(6,080 posts)
15. All they need to do is find 178,000 people to sign the petition in 4 months
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:23 PM
5 hrs ago

Honestly, I think that will be a cakewalk. What I hope is, once they have the referendum and it's defeated, it will put to rest any talk of Alberta separating going forward.

Spazito

(55,238 posts)
11. This is a fringe group...
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:12 AM
Tuesday

the majority of Albertans do not support separation even though the despicable provincial government is doing everything they can do to support this through various legislative acts while trying to pretend they are only working to be more 'democratic' in it's behavior.

The majority of Albertans also do not support leaving the Canadian Pension Plan much as, again, this despicable party would wish it to be so as they would like to get their hands on the money and use it to support the oil industry instead of putting it in a lock box as it currently is under the federal government policy.

valleyrogue

(2,526 posts)
14. Good thing infamous serial killer Sharon Kinne died. If Alberta ever became a US state,
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 07:29 PM
7 hrs ago

she'd have had to move.

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