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mahatmakanejeeves

(71,212 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:07 PM Saturday

Sens. Lee and Curtis question new Pentagon designation for Latter-day Saints

Source: Deseret News

Politics * Faith
Sens. Lee and Curtis question new Pentagon designation for Latter-day Saints

Curtis said he would ask the Pentagon for a correction after the subhead ‘Christian’ was left off of the designation for the church

Published: June 6, 2026, 11:43 a.m. MDT
Updated: June 6, 2026, 11:51 a.m. MDT


The Church Administration Building, foreground, and the Church Office Building in Salt Lake City are shown on Tuesday, Nov. 4, 2025. Tad Walch, Deseret News

By Suzanne Bates
Suzanne is the assistant managing editor over politics and the West. She covers state and national politics.

Utah’s two U.S. senators are questioning a new Pentagon policy that leaves “Christian” off the designation for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The Department of War recently announced the reduction in the number of religious affiliation categories for service members from over 200 down to 31. Categories that were removed from the list include “atheist” and “humanist,” and “Wicca.”

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is included as a religious category on the updated list. But the faith was not included in the list of faiths labeled “Christian.”

Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, put up a screenshot of the list on X and asked “Can anyone tell me why The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was left out of the list of Christian churches?”

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Read more: https://www.deseret.com/politics/2026/06/06/lee-and-curtis-question-new-pentagon-religious-affiliation-for-latter-day-saints-mormons/



Hat tip, Joe.My.God.

https://www.joemygod.com/2026/06/mormon-senators-rage-that-new-pentagon-list-of-approved-religions-doesnt-list-lds-as-christian/
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Sens. Lee and Curtis question new Pentagon designation for Latter-day Saints (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Saturday OP
Ruh roh... 2naSalit Saturday #1
Faith-Melding? czarjak Saturday #2
Projection Lithos Saturday #22
For many evangelical churches, any church that is not theirs is not christian. mwmisses4289 Yesterday #31
because they do not adhere to the Nicene Creed DBoon Saturday #3
Exactly! SheltieLover Saturday #7
Because they don't believe in the trinity, right? questionseverything Saturday #10
It took 300 years for the majority of Christians to follow the Nicene Creed muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #34
That's right Senators Lee and Curtis, Buddyzbuddy Saturday #4
See, that's where the theocratic sh** starts hitting the fan, Sen. Lee. tanyev Saturday #5
When the Christian churches run out of other faiths to degrade NeoTrajan Saturday #6
Probably one reason why Romney lost in 2012 TexasBushwhacker Saturday #8
yup Skittles Yesterday #25
Hey Mike Lee, can you tell me why you supported trump? A racist, bigot, and sexist. lostincalifornia Saturday #9
Because Mike Lee is a fascist himself and has more or less admitted to it fujiyamasan Yesterday #24
Religion. Can't live without it. Shit. twodogsbarking Saturday #11
So it seems per felon's DoD (among the erased are Atheists) pat_k Saturday #15
Also erased are the Unitarians. What the fuck? oberle Saturday #19
Un-American (and actually Un-Christian) Christian Nationalists asserting dominion. pat_k Saturday #20
And just like that DU starts an argument about sects. Jacson6 Saturday #12
Sects of Christianity are a reality Miguelito Loveless Saturday #13
But there's only.... SergeStorms Saturday #17
The only benign explanation I can think of is "Christian" wouldn't fit on the same line... jmowreader Saturday #14
"The Department of War..." MorbidButterflyTat Saturday #16
yup Skittles Yesterday #27
Exactly. Mike Niendorff Yesterday #28
Senators, don't expect any sympathy from me until you call the Departmant of Defense by its proper name. flashman13 Saturday #18
Fuck Around and FIND OUT! You all voted for the Antichrist... Jack Valentino Saturday #21
Not so fun when YOUR faces get eaten, Senators? nt SouthBayDem Yesterday #23
Mike Lee is a fascist piece of shit fujiyamasan Yesterday #26
OH! Boo FUCKING Hoo!!! AZ8theist Yesterday #29
A secular body, DOD, deciding which religions are legitimate. Politically correct. Norrrm Yesterday #30
MAGAts fighting MAGAts? Where's the popcorn? Wonder Why 22 hrs ago #32
I honestly do not care. These people (mostly) men do not or will they ever follow the teachings of Christ. efhmc 19 hrs ago #33
MaddowBlog-Hegseth's Pentagon slashes the number of religious faiths it officially recognizes LetMyPeopleVote 17 hrs ago #35
Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, put up a screenshot of the list on X and asked "Can anyone tell me why The Church of Jesus Christ Blumancru 16 hrs ago #36
That's the only designation they question? Hypocrisy. Martin68 15 hrs ago #37

DBoon

(25,211 posts)
3. because they do not adhere to the Nicene Creed
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:42 PM
Saturday

Last edited Sat Jun 6, 2026, 07:02 PM - Edit history (1)

ON EDIT: Neither do Jehovah's Witnesses, though the DoD includes them as a Protestant religion.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,705 posts)
34. It took 300 years for the majority of Christians to follow the Nicene Creed
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 02:05 PM
19 hrs ago

because Christianity existed that long before it was formalised by the most powerful sect.

Mormons think Jesus was God. That makes them Christians ('Christ'='annointed' in Greek).

Buddyzbuddy

(2,956 posts)
4. That's right Senators Lee and Curtis,
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:43 PM
Saturday

look out for thee but not me. You hypocritical aholes. Very Christian of you.

tanyev

(49,819 posts)
5. See, that's where the theocratic sh** starts hitting the fan, Sen. Lee.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:48 PM
Saturday

Since The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints teaches that The Book of Mormon is a divine revelation from God and every other denomination of Christianity does not accept it as such, then they see the LDS as a completely different religion.

Much like Christianity began as a sect of Judaism, but when its adherents accepted the books of the New Testament as divine revelations from God, then it became a separate entity from Judaism.

If it really bothers you Senator Lee, then you should become a strong advocate for continuing the separation of church and state.


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NeoTrajan

(81 posts)
6. When the Christian churches run out of other faiths to degrade
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:48 PM
Saturday

They start degrading each other ...

It's my way or the highway

TexasBushwhacker

(21,322 posts)
8. Probably one reason why Romney lost in 2012
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:52 PM
Saturday

Plenty of evangelical Christians consider Mormons and Catholics to be cults, but not themselves.

Jacson6

(2,262 posts)
12. And just like that DU starts an argument about sects.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 04:29 PM
Saturday

Never talk about politics or religion. You will just make someone mad!

jmowreader

(53,468 posts)
14. The only benign explanation I can think of is "Christian" wouldn't fit on the same line...
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 05:40 PM
Saturday

...as the very long official name of that religion.

TBH I'm surprised "Catholic" was part of the list of Christian faiths. There are LOTS of hardcore Protestants who don't believe Catholicism is Christian.

The funniest part is one of the faiths listed under "Christian" is Jehovah's Witnesses. It is a Christian faith, but it shouldn't be on this list because if you are a Jehovah's Witness and you join the Army they kick you out of their faith.

Hindu, Islam and Judaism all have several branches. On a different message board someone pointed out the Defense Department is actively working to recruit more Messianistic Judaism chaplains. Messianistic Judaism teaches that the Messiah has already returned to Earth and his name is Jesus Christ. In other words, it's a Christian faith designed to pull Jews into Christianity.

I suspect the real reason for this change was to de-recognize Norse faiths. Before Platoon Leader Hegseth infested the Defense Department with his venom, you could sign up as one of several Pagan faiths. Now you can't.

Mike Niendorff

(3,671 posts)
28. Exactly.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 05:30 AM
Yesterday

There is no "Department of War".

This is Trump-brand NewSpeak.

No American should be bowing to it.


MDN

flashman13

(2,598 posts)
18. Senators, don't expect any sympathy from me until you call the Departmant of Defense by its proper name.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 08:57 PM
Saturday

Jack Valentino

(5,290 posts)
21. Fuck Around and FIND OUT! You all voted for the Antichrist...
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 11:15 PM
Saturday

now you're surprised that Trump's White House and most Republicans
don't consider you to be "Christians".....




Might be some fall-off in midterm votes for Republicans in Utah this fall....

fujiyamasan

(2,111 posts)
26. Mike Lee is a fascist piece of shit
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 03:54 AM
Yesterday

Fuck him. Seriously one evil ass hole. No sympathy here. Don’t care about his fucking cult not getting his Christian designation boo hoo

AZ8theist

(7,713 posts)
29. OH! Boo FUCKING Hoo!!!
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:53 AM
Yesterday

You fucking fascist assholes have NO PROBLEM letting the bigotry and racism by Trump just slide by ...........

UNTIL!!

It affects your stupid cult!!

KISS MY HEATHEN UNBELIEVING BLASPHEMOUS ASS you fucking hypocritical SCUMBAGS.

efhmc

(17,100 posts)
33. I honestly do not care. These people (mostly) men do not or will they ever follow the teachings of Christ.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 01:47 PM
19 hrs ago

LetMyPeopleVote

(183,053 posts)
35. MaddowBlog-Hegseth's Pentagon slashes the number of religious faiths it officially recognizes
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 03:41 PM
17 hrs ago

The defense secretary has spent most of his tenure drifting from one culture war priority to another. Evidently, he hasn’t gotten to the end of his list.

On the one hand, Hegseth is using his office to advance a Christian nationalist agenda.

On the other hand, his Pentagon isn’t just elevating one faith tradition, it’s also demoting other faith traditions, slashing the number of religions the Defense Department officially recognizes.

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-06-05T21:02:17.897Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/hegseths-pentagon-slashes-the-number-of-religious-faiths-it-officially-recognizes

To a degree without modern precedent, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has used his powerful office to advance a Christian nationalist agenda. In recent months, Americans have seen him lead Christian prayer services in the Pentagon’s auditorium, invite radical Christian nationalist figures to speak at official prayer services, use social media to promote messages that suggest his faith should dominate other religious traditions and even argue during an official press briefing that Americans should take a knee and pray “in the name of Jesus Christ.”....

This week, however, a related problem emerged, though in an unexpected way: Instead of seeing Hegseth’s Defense Department take steps to elevate one faith tradition, Americans are seeing the Pentagon demote other faith traditions. The Religion News Service reported:

The Department of Defense is substantially reducing the number of religions it officially recognizes, reportedly excluding atheists, pagans, humanists and New Age faiths, an independent military-focused news website reports.

The reduction of recognized faith groups represents the first time the military has revised the list since 2017, when it vastly expanded the list of recognized faith groups to about 211. The new list includes 31 recognized faiths, as first reported by Military.com on Thursday (June 4).


The Military.com report was based on a memorandum issued by Anthony Tata on May 20. (Tata, the under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness, is perhaps best known for his record of anti-Muslim rhetoric and bonkers condemnations of Barack Obama, whom Tata described as a “terrorist leader.” Last year, Senate Republicans confirmed him anyway.).....

The secretary has spent most of his tenure drifting from one culture war priority to another. The list, evidently, continues to grow.

Blumancru

(344 posts)
36. Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, put up a screenshot of the list on X and asked "Can anyone tell me why The Church of Jesus Christ
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 04:21 PM
16 hrs ago

Because the LDS Church does not follow the Nicean Creed, a foundation of Christian belief. The Mormon religion bears the same relationship to Christianity that the WWE bears to Olympic wrestling. Some of the forms, some of the terminology, but it is a different thing all together and is in no sense a Christian religion.
(Ducking quickly)

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