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BumRushDaShow

(174,276 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 04:20 PM 21 hrs ago

House to vote on measure making daylight saving time permanent

Source: The Hill

07/10/26 12:27 PM ET


The House will vote next week on legislation making daylight saving time permanent nationwide, reviving a years-long effort to eliminate the twice-yearly clock changes. Daylight saving time has been observed throughout most of the U.S. since the 1960s, shifting clocks forward one hour from March to November. Most states observe daylight saving time, with the exceptions of Arizona and Hawaii.

The Sunshine Protection Act, an effort supported by President Trump, passed the House Energy and Commerce Committee 48-1 in May and allows states to opt out. Proponents of the measure argue the shift causes sleep disturbances and reduces productivity. Trump has pushed for permanent daylight saving time, saying he would work hard to get the legislation passed into law.

“It’s time that people can stop worrying about the ‘Clock,’ not to mention all of the work and money that is spent on this ridiculous, twice yearly production,” he wrote on social media following the committee’s vote. The Senate unanimously approved a similar measure in 2022, but it stalled in the House.

Should it pass the House, it could face opposition in the Senate from Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), who warned it would “push winter sunrises to an absurdly late hour” and that “kids would either walk to school in the pitch black or schools would have to push back start times.”

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5962759-house-vote-daylight-saving/



Blasphemy for me to agree with Tom Cotton but personally dealt with going to school with a flashlight when Nixon did this bullshit. There was a reason why it was repealed back then.
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House to vote on measure making daylight saving time permanent (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 21 hrs ago OP
How I wish changing two or three clocks twice per year was my biggest worry Bengus81 21 hrs ago #1
I hate the time change. hamsterjill 21 hrs ago #2
Not me Polybius 18 hrs ago #15
Is ten o'clock late enough for you? hamsterjill 18 hrs ago #17
Here in NYC, it gets dark around 8:45 at peak Polybius 18 hrs ago #20
South Texas hamsterjill 17 hrs ago #23
That's almost like Detroit BumRushDaShow 17 hrs ago #30
The sun sets around 8:45 pm in San Antonio. Followed by civil twilight. It's never been light at 10 pm! LeftInTX 14 hrs ago #39
The dramatic differences happen along the far western parts of each timezone line BumRushDaShow 8 hrs ago #47
Notice that Central Time goes all the way from Panama City, Fl to El Paso, TX! LeftInTX 7 hrs ago #48
Your north is the reason. Interesting too is NYC has had DLS since Bengus81 6 hrs ago #55
I love it, too! electric_blue68 13 hrs ago #41
Move here to Spain. sdfernando 9 hrs ago #44
Healthier question everything 3 hrs ago #56
When I was working, The Madcap 21 hrs ago #3
God I hope they do this FoxNewsSucks 21 hrs ago #4
Why can't 'the time' just be the time. ToxMarz 20 hrs ago #5
Been there. Done that. Try catching a plane on "solar time". The US had 300 time zones at one time. LeftInTX 18 hrs ago #18
Well I guess there are many considerations when it comes to the time ToxMarz 17 hrs ago #22
THANK YOU Skittles 9 hrs ago #43
I get confused which is which but whatever one is coming up when we fall back is the one I prefer year round Cheezoholic 20 hrs ago #6
Cotton is right. NGeorgian 20 hrs ago #7
He can't be. It is contrary to his nature to be correct about anything. TomSlick 19 hrs ago #13
dumb. we tried it, it sucked, people BEGGED to go back to the old, intelligent, twice a year shift. Blues Heron 20 hrs ago #8
I prefer Standard time... all the time. chouchou 20 hrs ago #9
In a state like Texas where it is so damn hot - I think standard time is better. walkingman 17 hrs ago #27
Me too don't like how late sunset is in the summer Tree Lady 16 hrs ago #34
They try to do this from time to time. PSPS 19 hrs ago #10
just shift the damned workday to 8-4 from 9-5, if you are gonna make it permanent, choose normal time not b@st@rd time gfwzig 19 hrs ago #11
I love DST. Raftergirl 19 hrs ago #12
Why would Cotton stop it now when he didn't in 2022? SamuelAdams 18 hrs ago #14
He got them mixed up. He wants what Florida and the golf courses want, which is DST year time. LeftInTX 18 hrs ago #19
The golf and barbeque cartels A Badger 8 hrs ago #46
I'd prefer the opposite. Skip daylight savings. mzmolly 18 hrs ago #16
I personally don't care about kids going to school in the dark Polybius 18 hrs ago #21
But STILL having "morning darkness" at near 8 am (my situation back in the mid-70s going to school) BumRushDaShow 17 hrs ago #25
No kidding. FoxNewsSucks 15 hrs ago #37
NOOOOooooooo!!!!!! eom Exp 17 hrs ago #24
While I like it light longer; science says Standard Time is best for US Callie1979 17 hrs ago #26
Why? Not an argument but just asking. efhmc 16 hrs ago #31
Research Shows Permanent Standard Time Is Healthier Than Daylight Saving Time question everything 3 hrs ago #59
I'm not gonna say Americans of prior years had better judgement than current ones, because each are abysmal RockRaven 17 hrs ago #28
The clock in my car amerikat 17 hrs ago #29
No matter what's decided, some will be happy - some will not. Talitha 16 hrs ago #32
Trivial bullshit LilElf70 16 hrs ago #33
Well for once, something to be happy about. Tumbulu 16 hrs ago #35
States can opt out of DST, but they cannot change standard time. And they can't opt for DST year around. LeftInTX 14 hrs ago #40
my unpopular opinion is that i don't mind (even like) the time changes orleans 15 hrs ago #36
I like "falling back", FoxNewsSucks 15 hrs ago #38
If Tom Cotton doesn't like it BWdem4life 12 hrs ago #42
I thought the Senate already voted on that a few years ago Rhiannon12866 9 hrs ago #45
The House never did their part back then. BumRushDaShow 7 hrs ago #50
The fact that stuck in my mind was that the Senate vote was unanimous. Now they're arguing?? Rhiannon12866 7 hrs ago #52
Maybe it's a wedge issue or pandering issue LeftInTX 7 hrs ago #53
Yes, it was just on a voice vote. Never a debate. It went to the house but never voted. question everything 3 hrs ago #58
I'd prefer STANDARD TIME to be permanent... but whatever. QueerDuck 7 hrs ago #49
Then kids would be going to school in the dark. RandySF 7 hrs ago #51
Yes, that has led to children being killed by automobiles. dedl67 6 hrs ago #54
there is a reason it's called "standard time" Nigrum Cattus 3 hrs ago #57

Bengus81

(10,716 posts)
1. How I wish changing two or three clocks twice per year was my biggest worry
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 04:29 PM
21 hrs ago

We got nailed by a 10% increase on our energy bills last Oct. Think what that means when the AC is running about non-stop now. Everything else is skyrocketing in price and SS increases never keep up. But by all means let's wring our wrists again over this clock setting nonsense.

Most of my clocks do it automatically as do our phones and computer. I have to reset my oven and microwave which takes at least 15-20 seconds. Then one more in my car.

Oh the humanity..........

hamsterjill

(18,068 posts)
2. I hate the time change.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 04:32 PM
21 hrs ago

It takes me a good two weeks to adapt each time.

But I'd rather see Standard Time used year round rather than Daylight Savings Time.

hamsterjill

(18,068 posts)
17. Is ten o'clock late enough for you?
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:36 PM
18 hrs ago

Because that's when it gets dark where I live now.

Polybius

(22,373 posts)
20. Here in NYC, it gets dark around 8:45 at peak
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:43 PM
18 hrs ago

Where do you live? It sounds like a dream!

hamsterjill

(18,068 posts)
23. South Texas
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 08:18 PM
17 hrs ago

Trust me, it's no dream when it's 90 degrees until 10:00 p.m. with humidity out the wazoo.

BumRushDaShow

(174,276 posts)
30. That's almost like Detroit
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 08:45 PM
17 hrs ago

which is just barely still in ET vs CT. It bugged me out being there in summer with the sun finally starting to set around 9:30 pm!

LeftInTX

(35,185 posts)
39. The sun sets around 8:45 pm in San Antonio. Followed by civil twilight. It's never been light at 10 pm!
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 11:10 PM
14 hrs ago

In the furtherest western parts of central time in Texas, the sun sets around 9:15 pm. But those towns aren't in South Texas. One town called Texline, the sun sets at 9:13, but that's north of Amarillo and on the border of New Mexico.

For every 1,000 miles distance you get about 1 hour sunrise/sunset (length of day) difference on the longest and shortest days of the year. Texline is 610 miles NW from San Antonio.

Early December it gets dark around 6 pm here. It actually stays light longer on Dec 21st even though it's the shortest day of the year.

I walk in parks and they close at sunset, so I have to plan around the sun.

BumRushDaShow

(174,276 posts)
47. The dramatic differences happen along the far western parts of each timezone line
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 05:54 AM
8 hrs ago

where suddenly the time is an hour earlier not far away!

LeftInTX

(35,185 posts)
48. Notice that Central Time goes all the way from Panama City, Fl to El Paso, TX!
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 06:10 AM
7 hrs ago

Since the route from San Antonio to St Augustine is pretty much a straight shot, (latitude isn't a factor...LOL) it's fun to look at the sunrise and sunset.

New Orleans is 28 minutes earlier than San Antonio.

Bengus81

(10,716 posts)
55. Your north is the reason. Interesting too is NYC has had DLS since
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 07:32 AM
6 hrs ago

what the 1930's or before? In the longest days from solstice into the first part July you can still see a little light in the NW at 9:45pm in Wichita.

By August 10th we've lost a full hour of daylight and it's easy to tell.

sdfernando

(6,151 posts)
44. Move here to Spain.
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 04:14 AM
9 hrs ago

Sun is rising at 6:45is and isn't setting until 9:30ish so still light up to about 10pm. It takes some getting used to for sure....on the other hand, I lived for 3 years in Alaska (below the Arctic Circle), where during winter I went to school and came home is the dark..only about 1.5 hours of light in the middle of they day durning winter...but the opposite during the summer. Point is, all of this takes getting used to but the body adjusts...its just that adjustment period can be hard.

The Madcap

(2,249 posts)
3. When I was working,
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 04:44 PM
21 hrs ago

I would have wanted DST year round so I could see at least an hour of daylight in Winter. Now, I don't care as much.

FoxNewsSucks

(12,033 posts)
4. God I hope they do this
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 04:44 PM
21 hrs ago

It wouldn't come close to making up for all the damage republicons have done, but if they can at least just make DST permanent, there would be one good small accomplishment.

I don't need it to be light at 4:30 am. I need light at the END of the day, when I'm free from work. It is also better for taking my dogs to run when it's not yet so damn hot. Thanks to climate change, that is only gonna get worse.

ToxMarz

(3,232 posts)
5. Why can't 'the time' just be the time.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 05:01 PM
20 hrs ago

And why would you make 'the time' permanently be something that is not the actual time. Days are shorter in the winter, longer in the summer. Always have been always will be. Deal with it.

LeftInTX

(35,185 posts)
18. Been there. Done that. Try catching a plane on "solar time". The US had 300 time zones at one time.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:37 PM
18 hrs ago

The use of local solar time became increasingly awkward as railways and telecommunications improved.[2] American railroads maintained many different time zones during the late 19th century. Each train station set its own clock making it difficult to coordinate train schedules and confusing passengers. Time calculation became a serious problem for people traveling by train (sometimes hundreds of miles in a day), according to the Library of Congress. Train drivers had to recalculate their own clocks in order to know departure time. Every city in the United States used a different time standard so there were more than 300 local sun times to choose from. Time zones were therefore a compromise, relaxing the complex geographic dependence while still allowing local time to be approximate with mean solar time. Railroad managers tried to address the problem by establishing 100 railroad time zones, but this was only a partial solution to the problem.[2]

ToxMarz

(3,232 posts)
22. Well I guess there are many considerations when it comes to the time
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 08:10 PM
17 hrs ago

I was only really focused on daylight savings vs standard time and constant readjusting, not time zones vs solar time vs whatever else one may implement.

Skittles

(173,933 posts)
43. THANK YOU
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 04:08 AM
9 hrs ago

When I was in IT and I would work 12 + hours, all night, booting multiple mainframe systems to change the time (mostly done dynamically now) - it always got on my nerves hearing day folk whine about "losing an hour" of sleep - ridiculous. Night shift people lose hours of sleep EVERY WEEK, mostly due to DAY PEOPLE.

Cheezoholic

(4,220 posts)
6. I get confused which is which but whatever one is coming up when we fall back is the one I prefer year round
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 05:31 PM
20 hrs ago

This sun setting after 9PM and still twilight crap at 10:30 to 11PM is ridiculous. I don't live in Alaska but summer can feel like it. Plus its dangerous for the kids in the Spring and late Fall. I think that's Standard Time so I like that. It seems more natural. If keeping the clocks where they are now year round, hell no. It'll still be dark at 9AM in the Winter. Hell no to that crap.

TomSlick

(13,175 posts)
13. He can't be. It is contrary to his nature to be correct about anything.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 06:55 PM
19 hrs ago

If Cotton is ag'in it, I'm fer it.

Blues Heron

(9,206 posts)
8. dumb. we tried it, it sucked, people BEGGED to go back to the old, intelligent, twice a year shift.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 05:41 PM
20 hrs ago

Summer time in winter is highly stupid. Some people have to learn the hard way though.

Tree Lady

(13,465 posts)
34. Me too don't like how late sunset is in the summer
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 09:42 PM
16 hrs ago

Can’t walk dog until 8pm most nights. I like to wait till temp goes down enough to open windows and some nights that’s not until midnight or later.

PSPS

(15,427 posts)
10. They try to do this from time to time.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 06:12 PM
19 hrs ago

Then, as the pile of grade school kids' dead bodies gets high enough, they change their minds.

gfwzig

(154 posts)
11. just shift the damned workday to 8-4 from 9-5, if you are gonna make it permanent, choose normal time not b@st@rd time
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 06:26 PM
19 hrs ago

SamuelAdams

(461 posts)
14. Why would Cotton stop it now when he didn't in 2022?
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:10 PM
18 hrs ago

I could have sworn Trump supported Standard time not Savings time. Either way, the switching is ridiculous and I prefer it staying light later. It's depressing when it starts getting dark by 4 in winter.

LeftInTX

(35,185 posts)
19. He got them mixed up. He wants what Florida and the golf courses want, which is DST year time.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:40 PM
18 hrs ago

I don't think he understood the difference and probably just didn't want to have to "change clocks twice a year".

DST is good for his golf courses and swimming pools. It's also popular with the theme park industry, MLB, etc.

mzmolly

(52,892 posts)
16. I'd prefer the opposite. Skip daylight savings.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:28 PM
18 hrs ago

I don't need the sun out until 10PM, personally.

Polybius

(22,373 posts)
21. I personally don't care about kids going to school in the dark
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:45 PM
18 hrs ago

Big deal. I love morning darkness when I leave for work at 6:00 AM.

BumRushDaShow

(174,276 posts)
25. But STILL having "morning darkness" at near 8 am (my situation back in the mid-70s going to school)
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 08:32 PM
17 hrs ago

was not safe.

As noted, there was a reason why that last attempt from the '70s was repealed. If it had worked the first time there would not have been the need to change it back to the twice a year change, which actually corresponds better with the equinoxes.

FoxNewsSucks

(12,033 posts)
37. No kidding.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 10:51 PM
15 hrs ago

Let their parents take necessary measures. Or adjust the school day. After decades of accommodating them, I'm tired of it. It's my turn to be accommodated.

question everything

(52,731 posts)
59. Research Shows Permanent Standard Time Is Healthier Than Daylight Saving Time
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 10:45 AM
3 hrs ago

For a study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences,
researchers used computer models that factored in the body's internal clock to compare
three scenarios: permanent standard time, which prioritizes more morning light,
permanent daylight saving time, which shifts light later into the evening, and the current
system of switching back and forth twice a year. 2

Their goal was to see how each time policy affects health outcomes like obesity and stroke.

• Findings showed clear benefits for standard time — The analysis revealed that
permanent standard time produced the largest reduction in both obesity and stroke
compared to the other policies. Specifically, the model estimated that obesity
prevalence would drop by about 0.78%, which equals millions fewer Americans
struggling with excess weight. Stroke rates also declined by about 0.09%,
preventing hundreds of thousands of new cases each year.

• Daylight saving time offered smaller benefits — Permanent daylight saving time
also lowered risks but to a lesser extent. The decreases were about 0.51% for
obesity and 0.07% for stroke. While still meaningful, these improvements fell short
of the stronger impact predicted under standard time.

https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2025/November/PDF/permanent-standard-time-health-benefits-pdf.pdf

RockRaven

(20,178 posts)
28. I'm not gonna say Americans of prior years had better judgement than current ones, because each are abysmal
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 08:43 PM
17 hrs ago

as evidenced by :gestures around wildly:

But this has been tried AND THEN REVERSED twice in the past century. The Nixon "energy crisis" era and also earlier during WWII (called "War Time" ).

But this time will be different because something something...

Talitha

(8,277 posts)
32. No matter what's decided, some will be happy - some will not.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 09:10 PM
16 hrs ago

I guess it depends on school times, job times, and how far north or south you live.

LilElf70

(1,765 posts)
33. Trivial bullshit
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 09:34 PM
16 hrs ago

How did this ever get back on anyone's priority list? Especially since there are many, many other things to work on first.

Tumbulu

(6,639 posts)
35. Well for once, something to be happy about.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 09:46 PM
16 hrs ago

I hate the time changing. I do not care what time they pick, just stick with it and people can adjust their work or school schedules around the natural daylight hours. I lived in Arizona for a few years and it was so amazing not to go through that ridiculous disruption. California passed a proposition to not change the time a few years ago- in fact my mother told me they passed one also before I was born in the ‘50’s. But our requests to stop the nonsense have been ignored. I did not know how Arizona was able to swing it.

I am really going to hope that this passes. Removing a completely unnecessary human created stress is actually wonderful. And so way overdue!

LeftInTX

(35,185 posts)
40. States can opt out of DST, but they cannot change standard time. And they can't opt for DST year around.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 11:19 PM
14 hrs ago

AZ opts out of DST. Unfortunately, they will not be able to opt out if it becomes permanent. AZ opts out because it is so hot in the late afternoon/early evening.

FoxNewsSucks

(12,033 posts)
38. I like "falling back",
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 10:56 PM
15 hrs ago

as I actually would like a 27 hour day.

I used to hate, I mean absolutely hate the "spring forward", even though I'd also like to spring 2 hours and just leave it there.

Then one year, I forget where I heard this, on Saturday I changed all my clocks ahead then did everything according to that time and Sunday it was no big deal. By Monday morning I was used to it. So that's what I do now every year.

I'd still like to leave it so it's dark later in the morning and light later in the evening. If I move again, I intend to move north and near the west end of a time zone. Others might want to move to the east end of a time zone.

BWdem4life

(3,177 posts)
42. If Tom Cotton doesn't like it
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 01:38 AM
12 hrs ago

His state can opt out. Why does he have to mess it up for the states that want it?

Rhiannon12866

(262,141 posts)
45. I thought the Senate already voted on that a few years ago
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 04:26 AM
9 hrs ago

I remember telling others about it, but then it never materialized, so I didn't have an answer when those I told asked. I believe the bill was co-sponsored by Senators Whitehouse and Rubio and the vote was unanimous, which was certainly promising. But then it never went to the House, so are they starting over?

BumRushDaShow

(174,276 posts)
50. The House never did their part back then.
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 06:36 AM
7 hrs ago

This time the House has done their own but the Senate is balking at that.

Rhiannon12866

(262,141 posts)
52. The fact that stuck in my mind was that the Senate vote was unanimous. Now they're arguing??
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 06:43 AM
7 hrs ago

LeftInTX

(35,185 posts)
53. Maybe it's a wedge issue or pandering issue
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 06:52 AM
7 hrs ago

So, everyone gets credit, but it didn't actually happen.

question everything

(52,731 posts)
58. Yes, it was just on a voice vote. Never a debate. It went to the house but never voted.
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 10:38 AM
3 hrs ago

I thought that this time it was the other Floridian - Scott - who said that he was hearing from his comstituents so I told my rep to object. I hope that she will vote No.

QueerDuck

(2,464 posts)
49. I'd prefer STANDARD TIME to be permanent... but whatever.
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 06:11 AM
7 hrs ago

It doesn't "save" daylight. It just makes the hot days of summer apparently longer.

Nigrum Cattus

(1,372 posts)
57. there is a reason it's called "standard time"
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 10:35 AM
3 hrs ago

DST was the change. Reason/logic says to go back
to standard time, not DST.

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