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ancianita

(43,342 posts)
Sat May 16, 2026, 05:02 PM 13 hrs ago

WIRED: The Real Losers of the Musk v. Altman Trial -- A federal jury is now deciding whether Elon Musk will win his

lawsuit against OpenAI and Sam Altman—but the trial has made everyone look bad.

"ATTORNEYS DELIVERED CLOSING arguments in the Musk v Altman trial on Thursday in a final attempt to convince a judge and jury that their respective clients, Elon Musk and Sam Altman, are the most well-intentioned, truth-telling stewards of OpenAI’s founding nonprofit mission. A judgement could be delivered as soon as next week, ending a decade-long battle between two of the technology industry’s most influential entrepreneurs.

But regardless of the outcome, there is a wide set of losers in this case. Based on ample amounts of evidence, it appears that the people worst off are the employees, policymakers, and members of the public who believed in the mission of a nonprofit research lab—and supported OpenAI because of it. What seemed to take precedence for Musk and OpenAI’s other cofounders at almost every turn was building the world’s leading AI lab—even if that meant creating a multibillion-dollar for-profit company in the process.

“It's hard to see how the public interest is being protected by either of these parties, and that is really what is ultimately at stake in a case about a nonprofit,” says Jill Horwitz, a Northwestern University law professor with expertise in nonprofits and innovation, who listened to the closing arguments. “The public interest in the nonprofit is at risk no matter who wins.”
OpenAI's stated mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence (AGI) benefits humanity, but humanity is not a party in this case. In practice, OpenAI has spent the last decade attempting to rival multitrillion-dollar companies like Google and build AGI first. Additionally, Musk and Altman have fought tooth and nail to be the ones who control OpenAI...

Musk has accused Altman, OpenAI’s CEO, and Greg Brockman, its cofounder and president, of straying from the nonprofit’s founding mission. He claims the founders used his $38 million investment to turn OpenAI into an $850 billion company and make several of its cofounders billionaires. To win this case, Musk has to convince a jury and judge that he attached certain conditions to his investment, specifically that OpenAI could only use the money for a charitable purpose, and that he filed the case in a timely manner. In response, OpenAI has argued that Musk has failed to prove either of these accusations, and that he simply has sour grapes about losing control of the AI lab...."

More context and trial details at

https://www.wired.com/story/musk-v-altman-trial-closing-arguments/

non-paywall https://archive.ph/DsVRM

More info and links on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musk_v._Altman

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WIRED: The Real Losers of the Musk v. Altman Trial -- A federal jury is now deciding whether Elon Musk will win his (Original Post) ancianita 13 hrs ago OP
I'm not a fan of Musk or Altman NEOBuckeye 13 hrs ago #1
Totally with you. And outside upper echelons of Silicon Valley, so are probably most folks in the USA. But the trial ancianita 13 hrs ago #2
They can both kill and eat each other far as I'm concerned LearnedHand 12 hrs ago #3

ancianita

(43,342 posts)
2. Totally with you. And outside upper echelons of Silicon Valley, so are probably most folks in the USA. But the trial
Sat May 16, 2026, 05:23 PM
13 hrs ago

itself is of major importance to this country, its alleged AI competitors, and maybe even the world.

According to DeepMind (with a link to one of its sources at the end)...

The Musk v. Altman trial has the potential to set a major legal precedent.
At its core, the lawsuit is testing the limits of charitable trust law and whether tech companies can convert from a nonprofit foundation into a lucrative, for-profit structure.
The outcome of the trial, heard in an Oakland, California federal court, could establish new legal guardrails for the tech and AI industries.

The outcome of the trial, heard in an Oakland, California federal court, could establish new legal guardrails for the tech and AI industries. Key precedents that could emerge from the case include:

Nonprofit Conversions:
A ruling in Musk’s favor could establish strict new precedents regarding whether founders and executives can legally pivot nonprofits into for-profit entities without the consent of their original donors.

Charitable Trust Integrity:
Musk has argued that failing to uphold the founding altruistic mission equates to "looting a charity". If the court agrees, it could set a binding precedent in the United States that limits how boards and executives can reshape mission-driven charities.

Founder Enforceability:
The trial tests whether initial mission statements and founding agreements act as legally binding commitments or just lofty goals. This could define how other mission-driven AI labs (like Anthropic) are capitalized and structured.

Remedies for Restructuring:
Musk is also asking the court to remove CEO Sam Altman and essentially undo OpenAI's restructuring. If the judge grants these "unscramble the omelet" remedies, it would be a groundbreaking and disruptive precedent for corporate and charitable unwinding.

While the jury's verdict is advisory—meaning Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers retains final authority over the outcome and ultimate remedies—her interpretation of charitable trust law will likely define how tech governance is regulated in the artificial intelligence era. Regardless of who wins at the trial level, both legal and financial scholars anticipate that the losing side will appeal, cementing the case as a landmark legal battle.

https://www.kqed.org/news/12081290/how-to-unscramble-an-omelet-in-silicon-valley-the-musk-v-altman-trial-that-will-try

LearnedHand

(5,590 posts)
3. They can both kill and eat each other far as I'm concerned
Sat May 16, 2026, 06:32 PM
12 hrs ago

They both are despicable chuds in ill-fitting human suits. They are the true illegals.

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