Trump blows up the notion his Canada talk was just a fleeting fancy

[Eugene]

Source: CBC News

Trump blows up the notion his Canada talk was just a fleeting fancy

'I'm really not trolling,' he tells Time Magazine, of his dream to make Canada a state

Alexander Panetta · CBC News · Posted: Apr 25, 2025 5:21 PM EDT | Last Updated: 3 hours ago

There's been no shortage of speculation about how U.S. President Donald Trump's comments about Canada might impact the federal election.

It's now time to start asking a new, longer-term question: About how his attitude will impact Canada beyond Monday's election.

It now seems increasingly obvious that Trump's expansionist aspirations are no fleeting fancy. He kept quiet for a while, leading some to wonder whether he'd gotten it out of his system — that maybe he was just simply trolling our former prime minister, Justin Trudeau.

-snip-

Read more: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-time-interview-analysis-1.7519086

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. Some responsible journalist must ask Trump:

“Just how many American soldiers are you willing to get killed to add a single star to the American flag?”

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. Please stop with that. tRump is stupid enough that nobody needs to make him think it is something to consider

The more you ask it, the more "currency" it gains. I've seen you make multiple posts like this.

Canada does not need even the vague threat of force against us. We have enough to deal with as it is.

I get your point that A) Canadians are tough enough that a war of conquest would have no real winner. B) The American public does not want a war of conquest against the Canadians.

But tRump is stupid and if an idea gets planted in his head he rolls with variations of it. The old relationship is over, but the military alliance is still strong.

Canada does not need the alliance weakened in any way.
The United States of America does not need the alliance weakened.
NATO does not need the alliance weakened.
The world does not need the alliance destabilized.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. I've made multiple posts asking this question because there have been multiple OP's on this topic

Any annexation of Canada as the 51st state would require an illegal invasion and occupation of the country, and that would result in the deaths of thousands of American soldiers (as well as Canadians), and the killing would not stop until the last American soldier left Canadian soil.

All talk of Canada becoming the 51st state, whether trolling or not, encompasses that reality.

The question is unavoidable and must be asked. Asking it publicly isn’t going to “plant an idea” in Trump’s head and lead to war, it merely adds a layer of context and consequence to all the clickbait talk about annexation.

Canada does not need the alliance weakened in any way.
The United States of America does not need the alliance weakened.
NATO does not need the alliance weakened.
The world does not need the alliance destabilized

Weakened? The alliance, with Canada and Europe, has been nearly obliterated. If Trump can abandon Ukraine (which the US promised to protect in exchange for Ukraine relinquishing their nukes), he can abandon Canada (he’s already in the process of sending the Canadian economy into deep recession). Most Canadians don’t blame Americans for that reality, but we don’t deny that it is the current reality.

After the Canadian election on Monday, I expect Carney to move decisively to create new and stronger trade and defence agreements with Europe, Asia, and other nations. The era of Canada being completely dependent on America is coming to an end.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. It's not about planting an idea. The seed is already there. Don't give it oxygen. Don't feed the bad wolf

As to the alliance between the US military and the Canadian military, that continues to function without interruption. Yes, it will change, but
let it change organically without feeding tRump's bad wolf which will add extra distortion to the current crisis and nobody needs that.

[Fiendish Thingy]

5. We simply disagree

Talking about the real life (& death) consequences of Canada becoming the 51st state, rather than ignoring the demented ramblings of a lunatic, will not increase the likelihood of the US invading Canada, and will do no further damage to the US/Canada alliance that hasn’t already been done.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. I'm not ignoring his ravings. Check my posting record before you float that canard.

He has not talked about military invasion. Don't keep raising it because that feed the idea.

There is plenty of his ravings about Canada to talk about without reifying one that he hasn't talked about.

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. Did you miss the "we disagree" part of my post?

Any talk about Canada becoming the 51st state automatically includes the reality that it would mean the deaths of thousands of Americans and Canadians, whether the speaker acknowledges it or not.

Talking explicitly about those deadly consequences doesn’t “feed the idea” (I assume by that you mean it will make it more likely it will happen).

Many Canadians are already talking about annexation in terms of invasion, occupation, war and death.

Check out recent articles, and their comments sections, at The Tyee and The Conversation sites.

The deadly consequences of annexing Canada is no secret that, like Voldemort’s name, must never be spoken.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. tRump will be dead before he gets around to invasion. He thinks he can break Canada economically.

Quit giving the military invasion idea oxygen. Now is not the time. Wait till the American raise it, and don't come back at me that then it will be too late. It is not a secret, it is too early to blow on that ember, too early to flare it up. If invasion became more than a fantasy there would be plenty of warning and time.

In the meantime there are more useful things to discuss about trade alliances with other countries, about internal trading barriers and about pivoting manufacture and services. Carney is on to a real thing with his ideas to increase Canadian productivity.

Yes, needless talk does feed the bogus idea of invasion.

Read up on the concept of "taking all the oxygen in the room" by discussing a topic. It is a favourite tactic of his to get people talking about a sensational idea while he does something else. Don't fall for it. He would be happy to hear you wasting time on something that is not going to happen and then he'd pause and think "Hmm, maybe it is a thing".