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usonian

(23,349 posts)
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 09:05 PM 15 hrs ago

Which side is your gas tank filler on? Don't look back.

It's on your dash.



Here, it's on the driver's left.
Its inventor just passed away.

Ford Engineer That Designed Gas Tank Indicator Passes Away

https://fordauthority.com/2025/12/ford-engineer-that-designed-gas-tank-indicator-passes-away/




James Moylan is most well-known for the Moylan Arrow, which stems from one rainy day in 1986, when he pulled a company car into a gas station to refuel it - only to discover that he parked on the wrong side of the pump. Moylan wound up getting soaked, which set of a proverbial light bulb - what if cars had an arrow near the fuel indicator gauge as a quick, visual reference to inform drivers which side is used to refuel?

“I got back to my office after the meeting, and without even taking my coat off, I sat down and started writing the first draft of this proposal,” Moylan told Design News in 2020. “I typed it up and turned it in and forgot completely about it." "The indicator or symbol I have in mind would be located near the fuel gauge,” Moylan wrote in his proposal to his boss, R. F. Zokas, “and simply describe to the driver on which side of the vehicle the fuel fill door is located.” By 1989, the Moylan Arrow began showing up in Ford vehicles, and the rest, as they say, is history.


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Which side is your gas tank filler on? Don't look back. (Original Post) usonian 15 hrs ago OP
Rita Rudner says she has a car with a rotating gas tank. House of Roberts 14 hrs ago #1
She is priceless Raven123 4 hrs ago #26
Unless you own many cars, PoindexterOglethorpe 14 hrs ago #2
My Subaru is on the passenger side UpInArms 14 hrs ago #6
I also have a Subaru and it's the first car I've ever owned with the gas tank on the passenger side dflprincess 12 hrs ago #13
Yup, Vw has the tank on the passenger side mwmisses4289 12 hrs ago #20
Rental cars PJMcK 12 hrs ago #23
So convenient when you're in a rental. Phoenix61 14 hrs ago #3
That seems very odd. I don;t know that I'd have thought to look there. 3catwoman3 14 hrs ago #7
I don't remember. It was a cheap rental around 1989.nt Phoenix61 14 hrs ago #8
That's one of those common-sense fixes-- viva la 14 hrs ago #4
My brilliant idea - I've long thought French onion soup... 3catwoman3 1 hr ago #43
What a great trivia question. 3catwoman3 14 hrs ago #5
I get my gas at BJs Delarage 12 hrs ago #24
I would rather wait a few minutes to not have to drag the hose across the car. MichMan 2 hrs ago #35
I would also rather wait, so I usually do. 3catwoman3 1 hr ago #42
I got a loaner Subaru, and was looking for the gas cap release lever. There was none. usonian 14 hrs ago #9
Gas tank cover release Old Crank 12 hrs ago #14
Mine is on the sdfernando 14 hrs ago #10
Mine is on the driver's side. CentralMass 13 hrs ago #11
My '72 Chevy Nova didn't have that problem. LudwigPastorius 12 hrs ago #12
I remember those. Old Crank 12 hrs ago #15
My dad had a '57 Bel Air dflprincess 12 hrs ago #16
Woah. LudwigPastorius 12 hrs ago #19
Yep. I also had one and that is where it was. OldBaldy1701E 4 hrs ago #27
Making it vulnerable to leaking after a rear end collision MichMan 2 hrs ago #33
Borrowed a friends car to do an errand. Old Crank 12 hrs ago #17
I never noticed Moylan's Arrow before this article. I'm looking forward to finding it in our two vehicles. summer_in_TX 12 hrs ago #18
I'd never realized it either until a George Takei post 10 + years ago underpants 3 hrs ago #28
Mine used to be in my driver's side rear fin on my '57 Chevy then moniss 12 hrs ago #21
We learned this trick a few years ago when we had a rental. LisaM 12 hrs ago #22
Ford is backwards of other makes. Ford puts their Emile 4 hrs ago #25
Neither of my Mustangs have either of those padfun 3 hrs ago #29
Maybe it's just on the Ford Escape? I had several Ford pickup trucks Emile 3 hrs ago #30
My Ford Freestyle was on the right side. My biggest gripe after the screwed up CVT transmission. ... marble falls 3 hrs ago #31
Every car I have ever owned has had it on the passenger side where it belongs MichMan 2 hrs ago #32
I believe it's on that side because it was built for the Japanese market JohnnyRingo 2 hrs ago #36
Pretty certain my Volkswagen's and Ford's were not built for the Japanese market. MichMan 2 hrs ago #37
UK, Australia, India, China, and Japan. JohnnyRingo 2 hrs ago #38
I live in the US MichMan 2 hrs ago #39
Let's put it this way.... JohnnyRingo 1 hr ago #40
I try and get gas from Costco when I can MichMan 1 hr ago #44
Wait! I've never been to Costco. JohnnyRingo 1 hr ago #45
Gas station lot is one way only MichMan 35 min ago #46
My Jensen Healey had the filler in the center Old Crank 1 hr ago #41
It's funny you mentioned that this week. He just died on Dec 11th. JohnnyRingo 2 hrs ago #34
I have two cars and one side the tanks on the left the other the right side kimbutgar 23 min ago #47

House of Roberts

(6,379 posts)
1. Rita Rudner says she has a car with a rotating gas tank.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 09:10 PM
14 hrs ago

The filler is always on the side away from the pump.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,436 posts)
2. Unless you own many cars,
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 09:13 PM
14 hrs ago

you ought to learn where the gas tank filler is the first or second time you put gas in. And no, it never moves to the other side.

UpInArms

(53,980 posts)
6. My Subaru is on the passenger side
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 09:23 PM
14 hrs ago

The ford ranger and the Honda civic are on the driver side …

Sometimes it takes me a bit figure out what I’m driving

dflprincess

(29,139 posts)
13. I also have a Subaru and it's the first car I've ever owned with the gas tank on the passenger side
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:14 PM
12 hrs ago

The first several months I had it, I pulled up to the pump thinking it was on the driver's side more than once (and did I feel goofy when I did that).

mwmisses4289

(3,133 posts)
20. Yup, Vw has the tank on the passenger side
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:33 PM
12 hrs ago

I will have to look at my dash and pay attention to the arrow.

PJMcK

(24,668 posts)
23. Rental cars
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 12:03 AM
12 hrs ago

Company vehicles.

Friends’ or family member’s cars.

All vehicles have a fuel gauge but most also have a low fuel warning light. Do you consider that indicator useless?

It’s not just your car, it’s a convenience.

Clearly the industry and public don’t agree with your point of view.

Phoenix61

(18,689 posts)
3. So convenient when you're in a rental.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 09:20 PM
14 hrs ago

I did have to ask a gas station attendant how to open the gas tank cover. He laughed and said he had to do that a lot for that car… the release was in the glove box!

3catwoman3

(28,505 posts)
7. That seems very odd. I don;t know that I'd have thought to look there.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 09:23 PM
14 hrs ago

What make of car was this?

viva la

(4,471 posts)
4. That's one of those common-sense fixes--
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 09:20 PM
14 hrs ago

that we all think we should have thought of.

"Squeezable ketchup bottle"-- I swear I thought that first.

3catwoman3

(28,505 posts)
43. My brilliant idea - I've long thought French onion soup...
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:49 AM
1 hr ago

…should be accompanied by a small scissor so you can just snip off the cheese rather than lift the spoon over your head until the cheese strand thins out enough to break.

3catwoman3

(28,505 posts)
5. What a great trivia question.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 09:21 PM
14 hrs ago

Mine is on the driver's side, which I find preferable.

And, this might be weird, but I don't like pulling the gas hose across my car, so I usually will wait in line to go to a pump that will be on the driver's side.

Delarage

(2,533 posts)
24. I get my gas at BJs
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 12:07 AM
12 hrs ago

There are always lines waiting for the driver side pumps....where my Corolla's filler is....and I love skipping all that and pulling the hose all the way over. Doesn't seem to damage anything, saves time & gas, and my car is SUPER OLD. So it works for me 👍

MichMan

(16,560 posts)
35. I would rather wait a few minutes to not have to drag the hose across the car.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:32 AM
2 hrs ago

See it happening all the time at Costco

3catwoman3

(28,505 posts)
42. I would also rather wait, so I usually do.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:34 AM
1 hr ago

At our local Costco, most of the customers are polite and patient, and typically wait for both cars at the pump(s) to finish and leave so the next 2 cars in line can pull in without having to squeeze thru the middle space and then awkwardly back in to the first pump.

Sometimes, the attendants put out the orange traffic cones in that middle space so people have to wait. I like it when they do that - safer, IMO.

usonian

(23,349 posts)
9. I got a loaner Subaru, and was looking for the gas cap release lever. There was none.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 09:51 PM
14 hrs ago

It somehow worked without it. Have to research. No "magic" key.


THAT I KNEW OF!!!

Old Crank

(6,621 posts)
14. Gas tank cover release
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:16 PM
12 hrs ago

Some have a cable. Usually driver's side on the A pillar below the dash or in front of the seat at the floor. Many more have a much the cover release to pop it open. This is lighter and has fewer things to go bad, like dirt and rust in the cable from the cabin.
The cable release usually opens a driverside cover. The last rental I had, the person showed me where the release was.

LudwigPastorius

(14,068 posts)
12. My '72 Chevy Nova didn't have that problem.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:12 PM
12 hrs ago

The filler tube was behind the license plate in the back.

Similar to this:

Old Crank

(6,621 posts)
15. I remember those.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:19 PM
12 hrs ago

And seeing cars drive away from the pump pouring gas out because they overfilled the tank. A great feature when you had to park your car over a puddle of gas to get to the pump.

dflprincess

(29,139 posts)
16. My dad had a '57 Bel Air
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:20 PM
12 hrs ago

I was about 4 when he got it. He amused himself by asking me to guess where the gas went in. I checked both sides of the car, then thought I'd show how smart I was because I knew it was behind the license plate on his old car. Wrong again.

It was behind a door on the tail fin. I was truly amazed - which is probably why I remember it so clearly.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,027 posts)
27. Yep. I also had one and that is where it was.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:07 AM
4 hrs ago

My Pontiac Skylark was also designed in this way.

MichMan

(16,560 posts)
33. Making it vulnerable to leaking after a rear end collision
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:30 AM
2 hrs ago

Good thing safety regulations have improved since then

Old Crank

(6,621 posts)
17. Borrowed a friends car to do an errand.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:23 PM
12 hrs ago

I knew about the arrow so when I pulled into the station I parked accordingly.
Wrong side. I had misread the dash and had seen an indicator for fuel economy or something and not the tank gage.

summer_in_TX

(4,023 posts)
18. I never noticed Moylan's Arrow before this article. I'm looking forward to finding it in our two vehicles.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:24 PM
12 hrs ago

Very handy for those working with a fleet of cars or in the automobile industry especially.

Cool!

underpants

(194,636 posts)
28. I'd never realized it either until a George Takei post 10 + years ago
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:07 AM
3 hrs ago

We have a rental for the weekend. Nissan’s have them in the right.

moniss

(8,638 posts)
21. Mine used to be in my driver's side rear fin on my '57 Chevy then
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:37 PM
12 hrs ago

later on some of mine were on either side or behind the license plate. I liked my '57 the best.

LisaM

(29,466 posts)
22. We learned this trick a few years ago when we had a rental.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:47 PM
12 hrs ago

It seems to me that it would be more sensible to just always put the gas tank on the same side in every car, but engineers seem resistant to standardization. I don't user copiers much anymore but it used to frustrate me to no end that toner cartridges were so stupidly different from each other.

Emile

(40,361 posts)
25. Ford is backwards of other makes. Ford puts their
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 07:55 AM
4 hrs ago

fill cap on the passenger side, and the dash gauge read full on the left, and empty on the right. Stupid 🙄

padfun

(1,887 posts)
29. Neither of my Mustangs have either of those
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:21 AM
3 hrs ago

Their gas fill is on the driver's side and the F on the gage is on the right side of the gauge,

Emile

(40,361 posts)
30. Maybe it's just on the Ford Escape? I had several Ford pickup trucks
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:26 AM
3 hrs ago

over the years, that had the fill caps on the passenger side too. All I know is, I don't don't like it.

Ford Escape dash gauge.

marble falls

(70,583 posts)
31. My Ford Freestyle was on the right side. My biggest gripe after the screwed up CVT transmission. ...
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:05 AM
3 hrs ago

... it's always on the opposite side the exhaust system runs.

MichMan

(16,560 posts)
32. Every car I have ever owned has had it on the passenger side where it belongs
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:28 AM
2 hrs ago

Think about it. If you were ever to run out of gas and need to refuel on the shoulder of the road, where would you rather be standing?

With your back to traffic as it zips a few feet away, or safely on the furthest side?

JohnnyRingo

(20,439 posts)
36. I believe it's on that side because it was built for the Japanese market
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:38 AM
2 hrs ago

Just like many minivans have the rear door on the left, opening into traffic here. Your filler was designed to be on the driver's side for when someone pulls up on the left side of the pump.

There's another way to tell where most of your car model was sold. In the rest of the world turn indicators are required to be amber, but cars intended to be primarily sold here will use one of the brake lights to signal a turn. I can see the Euro/Sino rule to be far better because it still uses two brake lights at all times. It's safer.

Now you can go out and look.

MichMan

(16,560 posts)
37. Pretty certain my Volkswagen's and Ford's were not built for the Japanese market.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:42 AM
2 hrs ago
"I believe it's on that side because it was built for the Japanese market"


Like I stated, it is on the passenger side where it belongs.

JohnnyRingo

(20,439 posts)
38. UK, Australia, India, China, and Japan.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:48 AM
2 hrs ago

Not all VWs or Fords have fillers on the right. Most are on the left.
It depends on where most of the platform is sold (or built).

MichMan

(16,560 posts)
39. I live in the US
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:57 AM
2 hrs ago

Already stated that having it on the right side in a country with LHD is much safer if you ever have to refuel on the side of the road.

If it is on the left side in the UK, Australia, Japan, and India, that would also be the reason because those are RHD countries. Much safer.

In my 67 years, I have owned five different Ford products, (both US and German manufactured) and nine different Volkswagens years ranging from 1981-2024. One of the VW was manufactured in the US, one in Mexico, and the reminder in Germany.

Every single one of my Fords and VW has had it on the right side.

JohnnyRingo

(20,439 posts)
40. Let's put it this way....
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:23 AM
1 hr ago

You're the guy who pulls up on the wrong side of the pump. Haven't you ever noticed how you usually have to back out from the car in front of you? The rest of us have enough room to go around, but you're front bumper to front bumper with the car ahead.
Most people here drive up on the right side of the pump like on our roads. That conveniently puts the pump and the filler on the driver's side.

Now you can get out and walk around behind your car every time you need to get gas, but if you're ever on the side of the road pouring it in from a jerry can -something most people have never done - it would be worth it. ...I guess.

MichMan

(16,560 posts)
44. I try and get gas from Costco when I can
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:51 AM
1 hr ago

They only allow you to drive in from one side, so your scenario doesn't happen there. Those lanes also generally have shorter wait times.

When I need to buy gas somewhere else, since I live in a rural area, there are always open pumps. I fact, the Mobil station I frequent when I need gas and not near a Costco only has one pump at each island, so there is no one in front of me anyway. Don't recall the last time I ever had to back up in a gas station. If I ever find myself facing someone bumper to bumper in the future, I guess they can back up.

JohnnyRingo

(20,439 posts)
45. Wait! I've never been to Costco.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:04 AM
1 hr ago

What do you mean they only allow you to drive up on one side? Which side do they dictate? Is it on the right side of the pump to make it easier for most cars?

Specifically, what model car do you have?

MichMan

(16,560 posts)
46. Gas station lot is one way only
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:32 AM
35 min ago

All the vehicles enter the lot on one side and exit on the other side. I have a 6 year old VW sedan and a 1 year old VW hatchback car.

Old Crank

(6,621 posts)
41. My Jensen Healey had the filler in the center
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:29 AM
1 hr ago

Right behind the cockpit. Could fill from either side at the station or the side of the road.

JohnnyRingo

(20,439 posts)
34. It's funny you mentioned that this week. He just died on Dec 11th.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:31 AM
2 hrs ago

He was 80 years old. I hope his headstone has an arrow to indicate where flowers are to be placed.

James Moylan was born in Detroit on December 19, 1944, and was hired by Ford as a draftsman in body engineering in March 1968. He was laid off in the '70s, but was later brought back to the company to work in plastics engineering, a growing sector as cars were getting smaller and cheaper. The idea came to Moylan on a rainy day in April 1986 when he hopped in one of Ford's employee fleet cars to drive to a meeting at another building. He had to fill up on the way, and, of course, parked with the wrong side of the car facing the gas pump, getting soaked by rain when he moved it. Moylan said he immediately had the idea to put an arrow in the gauge cluster indicating which side the gas cap is on, writing a draft of a "product convenience suggestion" proposal as soon as he got back to his desk.

In the proposal, which included a sketch of what it could look like (though using an illustration of the fuel door open, not just a simple arrow), Moylan said "Even if all Ford product lines eventually locate on the same side, for the minor investment involved on the company's part, I think it would be a worthwhile convenience not only for two car families, but also pool car users and especially car rental customers." He sent it off to his boss and promptly forgot all about it, until getting a reply seven months later from R. F. Zokas, a director of interior design, who said the arrow would be added to 1989 model year cars that were under development. The 1989 Ford Escort and Mercury Tracer were the first to use it, followed by the Ford Thunderbird and Mercury Cougar.

Read More: https://www.jalopnik.com/2061179/inventor-little-arrow-what-side-fuel-filler-is-on-dies/

kimbutgar

(26,720 posts)
47. I have two cars and one side the tanks on the left the other the right side
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:44 AM
23 min ago

Thank goodness for his little tank arrow invention!

Rip Mr. Moylan

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