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Related: About this forumHow are the vibes? Trump's polls plummet amid new concerns about the economy - The 11th Hour - MSNBC
The markets have been up for three straight days, but there's still plenty of concern and confusion over Trump's economy. Meanwhile, a series of new polls show the president's approval rating is falling fast. Peter Baker, Neil Irwin, and Angelo Carusone join Stephanie Ruhle on The 11th Hour. - Aired on 04/24/2025.
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How are the vibes? Trump's polls plummet amid new concerns about the economy - The 11th Hour - MSNBC (Original Post)
Rhiannon12866
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Vibes.. I listened to this last night on Tune-In and wondered who the guy was who was claiming
hlthe2b
Friday
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Rachel Maddow has been documenting his significant drop in the polls all week as well.
Rhiannon12866
Friday
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Maddow Blog-As his approval rating sinks, Trump wants investigations into pollsters
LetMyPeopleVote
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hlthe2b
(109,335 posts)1. Vibes.. I listened to this last night on Tune-In and wondered who the guy was who was claiming
the polls were wrong because in 12 years pollsters had not figured out how to include his supporters. He did not deny there had been "slippage," but suggested DEMS were taking to heart dramatic drops from polls that were so flawed that they were basically fooling themselves. Ruhle seemed to be going along--implying he was presenting a point she'd been trying to express.
I will watch the video later to figure out who this is, but I have to say:
Rhiannon12866
(232,987 posts)2. Rachel Maddow has been documenting his significant drop in the polls all week as well.

LetMyPeopleVote
(162,217 posts)3. Maddow Blog-As his approval rating sinks, Trump wants investigations into pollsters
Instead of dealing with the failures that have led to his drop in support, the president is blaming pollsters and news organizations.
https://bsky.app/profile/stevebenen.com/post/3lnuq3mvmts2c
Trump could deal with the failures that have made him so unpopular.
But he apparently finds it easier to call for investigations into "criminal" pollsters rhetoric that's become difficult to simply shrug off.
But he apparently finds it easier to call for investigations into "criminal" pollsters rhetoric that's become difficult to simply shrug off.
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/approval-rating-sinks-trump-wants-investigations-pollsters-rcna203262
For his part, Trump has seen the shift in public attitudes, and hes ready to reassess the direction of his failing presidency.
No, Im just kidding. Hes actually lashing out at pollsters in new and ridiculous ways. Newsweek noted:
As this week got underway, Trump, shortly before sunrise, published an item to his social media platform that read, We dont have a Free and Fair Press in this Country anymore. We have a Press that writes BAD STORIES, and CHEATS, BIG, ON POLLS. IT IS COMPROMISED AND CORRUPT. SAD!
That came shortly on the heels of a related item, in which he lashed out at FAKE POLLS FROM FAKE NEWS ORGANIZATIONS. The president added, These people should be investigated for ELECTION FRAUD, and add in the FoxNews Pollster while youre at it......
The hysterics were not altogether surprising. Trump did, after all, sue The Des Moines Register for publishing the results of a poll he didnt like. So it stands to reason that hed freak out in response to an avalanche of survey data showing his fading popularity.
But to the extent that reality has any bearing on this discussion, there are a few things to keep in mind here. The first is that there is no conspiracy: Polls show Trump struggling because Trump is failing and much of the public has noticed.
Second, the basis of the presidents weird conspiracy theory is absurd on its face: Pollsters cant be engaged in election interference when there is no election, and the politician in question cant run for re-election. (Even if there were an election, of course, theres nothing improper about releasing public opinion research that one party doesnt like.)
Third, and most importantly, some might feel the temptation to simply shrug off Trumps call for an investigation into criminal polling, but given recent events, that seems inherently risky. This president has already a demonstrated a willingness to direct the Justice Department to go after his perceived foes, and theres no reason to assume hell abandon these authoritarian-style tactics anytime soon.
No, Im just kidding. Hes actually lashing out at pollsters in new and ridiculous ways. Newsweek noted:
President Donald Trump has said pollsters that have shown his approval ratings sliding in recent weeks should be investigated for election fraud. Trump cited recent polls from The New York Times, ABC News/The Washington Post, and Fox News, which put his approval rating on 42 percent, 39 percent, and 44 percent respectively.
As this week got underway, Trump, shortly before sunrise, published an item to his social media platform that read, We dont have a Free and Fair Press in this Country anymore. We have a Press that writes BAD STORIES, and CHEATS, BIG, ON POLLS. IT IS COMPROMISED AND CORRUPT. SAD!
That came shortly on the heels of a related item, in which he lashed out at FAKE POLLS FROM FAKE NEWS ORGANIZATIONS. The president added, These people should be investigated for ELECTION FRAUD, and add in the FoxNews Pollster while youre at it......
The hysterics were not altogether surprising. Trump did, after all, sue The Des Moines Register for publishing the results of a poll he didnt like. So it stands to reason that hed freak out in response to an avalanche of survey data showing his fading popularity.
But to the extent that reality has any bearing on this discussion, there are a few things to keep in mind here. The first is that there is no conspiracy: Polls show Trump struggling because Trump is failing and much of the public has noticed.
Second, the basis of the presidents weird conspiracy theory is absurd on its face: Pollsters cant be engaged in election interference when there is no election, and the politician in question cant run for re-election. (Even if there were an election, of course, theres nothing improper about releasing public opinion research that one party doesnt like.)
Third, and most importantly, some might feel the temptation to simply shrug off Trumps call for an investigation into criminal polling, but given recent events, that seems inherently risky. This president has already a demonstrated a willingness to direct the Justice Department to go after his perceived foes, and theres no reason to assume hell abandon these authoritarian-style tactics anytime soon.