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Rhiannon12866

(261,995 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:15 PM 19 hrs ago

Who could've seen this coming? Trump LOSES peace after LOSING war - The Beat - MS NOW



Trump says the ceasefire with Iran is over amid renewed fighting in the region. MS NOW's Ari Melber reports on the latest developments and is joined by The New York Times' Molly Jong-Fast and Bill De Blasio, former mayor of New York City. - Aired on 07/08/2026.
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pat_k

(14,723 posts)
1. I have never waivered from what I've posted many times: There is no way out with the felon in the WH
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:33 PM
19 hrs ago

The MOU -- an agreement to negotiate to come to some agreement later -- was doomed from day one.

I've posted many variations of the following over the past couple months (e.g., here). Nothing has changed my mind.
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Said it before. Will say it again. There is No Way Out with the Felon in the WH.

Trumpublicans need to face reality.

He is incapable of negotiating.

His demands will never be met.

The Iranian regime cares not for the suffering of it's people. No amount of bombing will "win" this war as long as IRGC and Basij with jet skis and cheap drones can inflict damage on neighbors, oil tankers, and container ships.

The only "out" is surrender and reparations -- and epic humiliation.-- which he will NEVER allow.

The magnitude of the damage to this nation and the world done by his criminal Iran insanity will escalate every week as the year progresses.

Republicans are in denial. They have their fingers in their ears, singing "la la la." The creatures are hanging on to the fantasy that the felon's criminal war on Iran will magically come to an end and things will "snap back" to some sort of tolerable trumpian business as usual.

But that will NEVER happen with the felon in the White House. There is no out with Trump in power.

He IS the crisis.

The ONLY way to end the crisis is if he leaves.

If enough of them wake up and see this reality we'll see an effort to push him out. A push to resign for "health reasons" or some other face-saving bullshit.

Perhaps it will take a rout in the midterms to wake enough of them up, but resignation is not outside the realm of possibility.

If that does come to pass, they'll find they left it to long. It's too late. The party can't "live down" this level of chaos and destruction. And they only have themselves to blame.

Rhiannon12866

(261,995 posts)
2. I completely agree with you. Last night I listened (and posted) his unhinged and threatening remarks
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:43 PM
19 hrs ago

And I kept wondering what the NATO president thought, and those leaders from other countries. I felt extremely sorry for Zelenskyy who was sitting opposite him, hoping to have a serious discussion about ending the Ukraine war - now that the U.S. is supposedly sympathetic again. At the same time, journalists from all over the world were shouting questions and who knows what they reported?!

mwmisses4289

(5,328 posts)
3. Will he use this stupidity of his to now claim he has ended 40 bazillion gazillion wars (or is it 50 bazillion? )
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:48 PM
19 hrs ago

I can't keep track of how many wars he's ended.

Rhiannon12866

(261,995 posts)
4. He keeps adding a few everytime he brings it up - he apparently thinks he deserves credit for stopping those he started
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:52 PM
19 hrs ago

Which adds up to however many times he's "ended" his war in Iran!

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