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rampartd

(5,812 posts)
9. lets divide progressives.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 10:44 AM
16 hrs ago

the regressives like to emphasize the anti israel, palestinian terror stuff (neither liberal nor progressive)

or the litter box in the bathroom bit (which is just ridiculous.)

i am a progressive in the sense of the 1912 party platform. the platform is on line, but copilot sums it up ......

Core Principles
The platform declared that the party was born from the “conscience of the people” in response to “grave national problems” and a sense of justice. It pledged to uphold the Constitution as a tool for the people, not for the benefit of corrupt elites. Key principles included:

Government by the people: Advocating self-controlled democracy and representative government.

Public welfare first: Prioritizing the general interest over narrow party interests.

Ending the “invisible government”: Breaking the alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics The American Presidency Project+1.
Major Policy Planks
The platform called for:

Direct democracy reforms: Direct primaries, recall, and referendum to give citizens more control over political processes.

Regulation of business: Stronger antitrust enforcement and corporate accountability.

Labor and industrial justice: Protection of workers’ rights, fair wages, and safe working conditions.

Social insurance: Programs for unemployment, old age, and disability.

Inheritance taxes: To reduce wealth concentration.

Farm relief: Support for farmers facing economic hardship.

State and federal reforms: Changes to laws and institutions to promote equal opportunity and industrial justice Teaching American History+1.

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liberals occasionally justaprogressive 16 hrs ago #1
That's my impression. So I guess that makes him part of the "establishment" Walleye 16 hrs ago #11
Historically, by the Progressive Era bucolic_frolic 16 hrs ago #2
Both do both paleotn 16 hrs ago #5
Can't entirely agree or disagree bucolic_frolic 16 hrs ago #7
You couldn't slide piece of paper through the difference paleotn 16 hrs ago #3
Agree. It's lost all meaning. BannonsLiver 15 hrs ago #26
Progressives stand for progress and change Fiendish Thingy 16 hrs ago #4
I'm glad you noted "stand for" progress and change. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #8
Well, I was referring to progressive politicians specifically, not voters Fiendish Thingy 16 hrs ago #14
Yes, it is standing up for one's values. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #19
Like I said, a debateable strategy Fiendish Thingy 15 hrs ago #25
It's your civic duty to vote. It's either or. Walleye 13 hrs ago #43
I agree casting a ballot should be mandatory Fiendish Thingy 13 hrs ago #46
I get the feeling that the purpose of elections, to determine the will of the people, is being buried somehow Walleye 12 hrs ago #51
I'm sure someone will chime in with some intricate delineation... W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #6
This is what I think, too. CrispyQ 16 hrs ago #16
I think in this particular election being against Trump is enough Walleye 13 hrs ago #44
Some are hip buzzwords Keepthesoulalive 12 hrs ago #52
lets divide progressives. rampartd 16 hrs ago #9
simple Whip-poor-will 16 hrs ago #10
Liberals are more about individual freedom; progressives want to build new structures muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #12
This Progressive is so far left of left... ZDU 16 hrs ago #13
Thank you to everyone who answered. It's all very interesting. Walleye 16 hrs ago #15
Agree - whether people like it or not we have a two party system in America. walkingman 16 hrs ago #18
The two party system is a huge part of the problem. The Madcap 15 hrs ago #31
I do wish we has a parliamentary system. I also wish we were a democracy instead of a democratic republic walkingman 14 hrs ago #36
Joe Biden managed to get some bipartisan legislation passed Walleye 13 hrs ago #45
And if they don't like the two party system, they can feel free to think of it as 100+ million party system. W_HAMILTON 14 hrs ago #37
The word "Liberal" has numerous meanings and different usages. LeftInTX 15 hrs ago #28
I personally think withholding votes, is a shade of "anarchism" LeftInTX 14 hrs ago #34
There are many people who feel the same way we do politically, but they refuse to participate. I don't know what Walleye 12 hrs ago #47
The way I look at it is this.... walkingman 16 hrs ago #17
I described myself as a proud Democrat Walleye 15 hrs ago #24
I'm a "big tent Democrat" LeftInTX 14 hrs ago #33
Message auto-removed Name removed 16 hrs ago #20
I have always identified myself as a liberal for one very simple reason Peacetrain 15 hrs ago #21
I'm a liberal and proud of it. Raftergirl 15 hrs ago #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull 15 hrs ago #23
Incrementalists within the system vs. Reformers who think the system is broken Sympthsical 15 hrs ago #27
Progressives are Liberals Progressive dog 15 hrs ago #29
A sliver. RandySF 15 hrs ago #30
Progressives are more idealistic, less pragmatic... BH liberal 15 hrs ago #32
What is the benefit of this question? We all need each other.... legallyblondeNYC 14 hrs ago #35
Progressives tend to work towards a group goal. haele 14 hrs ago #38
Redefined: progressive (anti-establishment, working class, good) liberal (establishment, elite, not progressive, evil). betsuni 13 hrs ago #39
In recent years, Progressives work for progress, 31j20b3 13 hrs ago #40
They used to be called blue dog Democrats and were mostly southern. Raftergirl 12 hrs ago #48
Yes, I was just going to remark on that. In Delaware we had a very liberal Republican governor. But those days are gone Walleye 12 hrs ago #50
Lincoln Chaffee was another one. He eventually left the R party and became a D. Raftergirl 12 hrs ago #53
So did the governor I mentioned. Governor Peterson. Walleye 12 hrs ago #54
Liberals support liberty. Progressives support progress. meadowlander 13 hrs ago #41
Imo, a progressive is someone who is afraid of the word liberal. ananda 13 hrs ago #42
That is my general impression Walleye 12 hrs ago #49
there is no difference mike_c 12 hrs ago #55
I don't think there is an equivalent in the Republican party Walleye 12 hrs ago #56
Liberals are center-left and progressives are left many a good man 10 hrs ago #57
Well said! BH liberal 8 hrs ago #58
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