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In It to Win It

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12. Agreed. The government cannot revoke a privilege because of speech it disagrees with
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 10:43 PM
Apr 2022

I've literally argued about this at least three times today and it's shocking that people (Republicans) excuse this. I give them the argument that it may undeserved privilege. I don't debate that. The reason for taking that "undeserved" privilege is unconstitutional.

The most heard argument I got is that the government is not restricting Disney's speech. Disney is still free to say whatever they want. The government is just taking away this one undeserved privilege. I stuck with few examples of privileges that government gives; 1) a drivers license; 2) a liquor license; 3) a hunting license; 4) a tax credit. All of these things are privileges granted to you by the government. Suppose you drive around the state capital with a "FUCK DESANTIS" sign. You post it on Facebook and it goes viral, and DeSantis says "you've messed with the wrong guy." The next day you find out that the government has suddenly taken away your drivers license. With your drivers license taken away, you can tell say whatever you want, and driving is a privilege. However, the government has taken your privilege of driving from you because it didn't like something you said. That is targeting you because of something you said. That is a violation of your 1st amendment right.

Suppose the state gave you a credit on your property taxes. You signed to put up a large "FUCK DESANTIS" sign on the front lawn of your property. Because of that sign, the government takes away a property tax credit it granted to you. They can take back that property tax credit for many reasons. However, one of the few reasons it cannot take back that credit from you is because of that sign. That would be a violation of your 1st amendment free speech protection.

I've also heard today that Disney has freedom of speech but not freedom from consequences. That freedom of speech guarantees freedom from consequence IMPOSED BY THE GOVERNMENT. The private market can impose consequences for speech but not the government, not for speech.

I'm pretty sure I convinced no one.

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The law is blatantly unconstitutional. The gov't cannot squelch free speech. Period. CurtEastPoint Apr 2022 #1
I agree ! steve2470 Apr 2022 #2
I read earlier that to officially do away with the special district status, it would require a vote In It to Win It Apr 2022 #13
Agreed. The government cannot revoke a privilege because of speech it disagrees with In It to Win It Apr 2022 #12
Perhaps the law will be repealed (more than likely) but then in an act of revenge, the state will... SWBTATTReg Apr 2022 #3
NO! Revenge of any type for protected speech is unconstitutional! tableturner Apr 2022 #9
June of 2023 zipplewrath Apr 2022 #4
Nothing will be done on a state level. Any pressure on Tallahassee will be from the counties. taxi Apr 2022 #5
It appears that many DU posters now favor mega corporations using veto power over state government MichMan Apr 2022 #6
No revenge for protected speech....THAT is the issue! tableturner Apr 2022 #11
I think that he will escape any justice and win reelection handily. Chainfire Apr 2022 #7
This is a wierd one tirebiter Apr 2022 #8
Florida has NO right to punish in any way for protected speech! tableturner Apr 2022 #10
I am literally astounded that Republicans would cheer such a move In It to Win It Apr 2022 #14
To answer the questions In It to Win It Apr 2022 #15
Disney tells investors state can't dissolve special district without paying debt LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #16
Statement from Disney, posted on the website of the Municipal Securities Rulemaking Board LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #17
thanks for your research ! nt steve2470 Apr 2022 #18
Has there been any other words from the administration onethatcares Apr 2022 #19
Will this mouse roar? Loge23 Apr 2022 #20
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