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MineralMan

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17. Of course. In reality, there was no such pair, of course.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:00 AM
Jan 2019

However, religionists point to them, even those who claim not to be Bible literalists. There was no Adam and Eve, no Garden of Eden, no Cain and Abel, and no freaking talking serpent. None of that. Such ideas are clearly nonsense and pure mythology.

That creates a real conflict for Bible enthusiasts. They know it's mythology, but can't say so. That creates a shitstorm generated by the "true believers" who take it all literally. So, they hedge and dissemble, referring to Adam and Eve only when necessary, but in total confusion, since they have to take it sort of literally or the entire story falls apart.

Meanwhile, Science has a very, very good handle on the evolution of the human species. It understands how humans came to be what they are now. Who was Eve? Well, mitochondrial DNA offers some clues, but they don't match up with the whole Eden story and all the mythology. So, the fundamentalists have to claim that science is wrong, and the metaphorists have to do their delicate tap dance to preserve any semblance of belief in Genesis as a true story at all.

In some cases, they've reduced it all to some sort of amorphous "Creator," who set the entire metaphorical creation into action. Then, they have to try to fit that "Creator" somehow into the mythology. The process is comical and entertaining, but that's all it is.

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How did murder come about, father? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #1
I heard the story in church at one time or another, but smelled a rat when I got older... Thomas Hurt Jan 2019 #2
Interesting. MineralMan Jan 2019 #3
.. and Bible Literalists should have problems with... JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2019 #4
Among many other things... MineralMan Jan 2019 #5
But what about this? MineralMan Jan 2019 #6
Plus a whole lot of incest. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #7
I will "see" your question and "raise" you another one... Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #8
More clues about the non-existence of deities. MineralMan Jan 2019 #13
Ding Ding Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #25
God gave us free will, which means we're going to do the wrong thing sometimes Clash City Rocker Jan 2019 #26
OK, so, let me get this right... MineralMan Jan 2019 #28
Dayum, if I was as sharp as you Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #32
Aw, shucks... MineralMan Jan 2019 #33
I don't know about that one, but God caused MarvinGardens Jan 2019 #9
The "Mark of Cain" was used by Christians to justify slavery Major Nikon Jan 2019 #10
And also the prophecy about Ham. Igel Jan 2019 #11
Yes, and Adam and Eve had to get busy again MineralMan Jan 2019 #14
You mean the metaphorical Adam and Eve Major Nikon Jan 2019 #16
Of course. In reality, there was no such pair, of course. MineralMan Jan 2019 #17
Makes you wonder which requires a higher level of delusion Major Nikon Jan 2019 #18
It doesn't make me wonder at all. MineralMan Jan 2019 #21
"Bible Literalists" aka believers Major Nikon Jan 2019 #23
Right. I can see old Moishe now, pondering MineralMan Jan 2019 #24
Maybe the idea of a perfect God is too literal marylandblue Jan 2019 #20
Well, those old nomadic storytellers had limited knowledge to work with. MineralMan Jan 2019 #22
so, about 'Oumuamua. Igel Jan 2019 #12
Gravity affects all material things. MineralMan Jan 2019 #15
Just an allegory to explain a 'brother vs brother' civil war fight Mc Mike Jan 2019 #19
Since (Y-chromosome) Adam & (mitochondrial) Eve lived 1000s of years apart, I choose fable (lie). malchickiwick Jan 2019 #27
Yes, of course it's a fable. some people, though, claim MineralMan Jan 2019 #29
On the one hand, if the creator is all knowing and all powerful, no. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #30
On my other hand, I have four fingers and a thumb. MineralMan Jan 2019 #31
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